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1 posted on 07/15/2021 10:17:08 AM PDT by Tipllub
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2 posted on 07/15/2021 10:18:57 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (“Fraud vitiates everything.” )
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So the vaccine didn’t help here…

A few posts down is about a pool party in Vegas where 11 vaccinated and partially vaccinated people got it and recovered with no ill effects (like 95% of the cases without the vaccine)

So … does the vaccine actually do anything?


3 posted on 07/15/2021 10:19:36 AM PDT by Skywise
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I wonder if history will be kind to the “leaders” in this area with regards to availability of prophylaxis such as HcQ and Ivermectin in treatment of COVID?


4 posted on 07/15/2021 10:19:39 AM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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Another success?


5 posted on 07/15/2021 10:21:47 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: Tipllub; 2aProtectsTheRest; BeauBo; SeekAndFind

Regardless of where people stand on how the virus originated, the point is to treat it like the wartime threat that it is instead of some inconvenience to shake off. This is not going to be over in one sitting. “Yay vaccine shots done and bam! Back to normal!”

There needs to be a way that people figure out how to adjust to the long term reality of Covid while not shutting everything down. I personally believe masks, temperature checks in closed quarters, distancing, are part of the conversation. But not stupidly so. Which is what has been the case this entire run, especially in our country.

In parts of Asia, people where masks regardless because of pollution and go about their daily lives and their economies are thriving. Their public spaces are immaculate with or without a pandemic. Our cities operate like little more than pig sties by comparison.

Among the worst aspects of all this is the resistance in the part of NIH/CDC to advocate for adequate but less than perfect TREATMENTS for COVID.


6 posted on 07/15/2021 10:24:42 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are 95% effective. The J&J vaccine is 80% effective.

Presently about 168 million Americans are fully vaccinated.

If we just go with 95% effectiveness, 5% have a risk of still becoming ill from Covid or a variant with profound symptoms.

That means over 75,000 people are vaccinated but can still become ill with Covid or a variant.

We see just a drop in a bucket of those 5% people reported in media, main stream or various social media sources.

So it’s even more than the daily trickle of a few here or there.

But, it’s totally expected. It’s not a shocking expectation. IMO


7 posted on 07/15/2021 10:26:21 AM PDT by David Chase (DavidHereToHelp)
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Both Rachel and Yitzhak Na’eh were fully vaccinated, but suffered from pre-existing conditions,

RIP. :(

"Pre-existing conditions" in vax articles reads like,

"Oh we see that you already have one foot in the grave so let us help you onto this banana peel so you won't fall in."

13 posted on 07/15/2021 10:36:38 AM PDT by Ezekiel ("Come fly with US". Ingenuity-- because the Son of David begins with Mars.)
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“But it would have been so much worse if they hadn’t got the vaccine.”

I’ve heard people say this so many times. How do they know? Ridiculous!


34 posted on 07/15/2021 11:26:55 AM PDT by BelleAl (Proud to be a member of the party of NO! NO more deficit spending and government control!)
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The Mrna Vaccines are 95% effective. So, let’s do the math. 95% effective means, that for every 100 vaccinated, 5 will still get it, and a certain percentage of those who still catch Covid even though vaccinated might die.

So:

100 = 5
1000 = 50
10000 = 500

So, if we assuming that approximately 1% of those who catch covid die of it, that’s 5 that might die for every 10,000 fully vaccinated.

So... let’s keep doing the math, between 50-60% of Americans have now been vaccinated. So.. lets just say 160 million are vaccinated:

So if 5 fully vaccinated people might still die for every 10,000 vaccinated, that’s .... 16,000 fully vaccinated people who might still die of Covid in the US alone.

So why do people keep posting these stories as if they are a surprise and are news?


37 posted on 07/15/2021 11:38:55 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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The elderly were the first vaccinated in Israel, now about 6 months ago. Israeli researchers are finding that their covid vaccine is about 70% effective against the delta variant, and they’re wondering if the initial vaccination is reaching a shelf-life of protection, creating a need for boosters. As an aside, life expectancy in Israel is 82yo. (81 for men 85 for women)
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“Vaccine effectiveness in preventing both infection and symptomatic disease fell to 64% since June 6, the Health Ministry said. At the same time the vaccine was 93% effective in preventing hospitalizations and serious illness from the coronavirus.”

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-sees-drop-pfizer-vaccine-protection-against-infections-still-strong-2021-07-05/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=twitter

according to Hamodia.com, there are 54 serious cases and 16 on life support as of yesterday.


52 posted on 07/15/2021 5:11:44 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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How many times do we have to say these so called vaxes are not about preventing covid. They are about what is in the vaxes that they want in the bodies of all people.

The people pushing this are sick bastards.


53 posted on 07/15/2021 5:20:41 PM PDT by dforest (huh)
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