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COVID-19 Vaccinations in the United States (14 July, as of 06:00 AM ET)
CDC ^ | 14 July 2021 | CDC

Posted on 07/14/2021 1:44:24 PM PDT by BeauBo

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To: BeauBo

Thank you for the statistics. Reading little kids on ventilators is just horrible. Of course many people around here are actually cheering this on or telling me this is all fake. If they can, unvaccinated people need to get vaccinated asap and quit bringing up all these unscientific conspiracies.


81 posted on 07/14/2021 5:18:11 PM PDT by hawkaw
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https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762

“Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.”

Probably important details coming, but thought you’d be interested.


82 posted on 07/14/2021 5:28:58 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: gas_dr; Gene Eric
Everything you just posited is completely wholesome and appropriate. Your tiering is rational and supportable by numbers and circumstances of those involved.

As encouragement, it's spot on. You never said mandate any of it, which quickly becomes a hot button issue. Perhaps even more importantly, you said having had COVID-19 was at least equal to having had the vaccine.

Thank you for that. It's a completely defensible position for a cautious approach to strange disease, regardless of other treatments being available.

83 posted on 07/14/2021 5:58:48 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Enlightened1

“…What’s disturbing is that if you are injured there is no liability. Plus insurance companies will not pay your medical bills because they said you took an experiment non-FDA approved therapy….”
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Is this yet another thing the STRANGE BREW CREW is making up or do you have a link to something substantiating this claim.


84 posted on 07/14/2021 6:12:56 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: mrsmith

https://theuscovidatlas.org/map

Covid info by county.
Vaxxes, deaths, just about everything.


85 posted on 07/14/2021 6:17:04 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: mrsmith

That seems to support natural immunity as being stronger than the immunity initiated by vaccines… or at least more effective than one or more of the vaccines administered in Israel. It would be interesting to know how many of the vaccinated breakthrough cases involved people who had not yet had their second shot.


86 posted on 07/14/2021 6:45:42 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: House Atreides

Yes.
And how many of the previously infected also had the vaccine.
“Prev infected” and one dose has been said to be “super”.


87 posted on 07/14/2021 7:03:11 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Well then you better set the FLCCC and the East Virginia Medical School straight about IVM!


88 posted on 07/14/2021 7:29:59 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: ConservativeMind

Thank you for your kind words. I really appreciate them.


89 posted on 07/14/2021 7:56:31 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: dynoman

Friend mother passed tonight. She was in a retirement home healthy as can be. Got her shot early on and declined from there took about 4.5 months. RiP. Not the first time I’ve heard of this reaction. Purely anecdotal but anecdotally I know more lost from would could be the vax vs. The other [


90 posted on 07/14/2021 8:08:24 PM PDT by CJ Wolf ( what is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them...God wins. Trump always wins. . )
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To: CJ Wolf

I don’t laugh at our ancestors who believed any thing that happened after an eclipse was caused by the eclipse, so I shouldn’t laugh at your assumption.
After all, I see no advance in Mankind since the times of Herodotus (except for Jesus’ effect) .

Sad, but true.


91 posted on 07/14/2021 8:24:21 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: mrsmith; 2aProtectsTheRest

Read this tweet and the replies;

https://twitter.com/Parsifaler/status/1415485812465143811?s=19


92 posted on 07/15/2021 5:30:49 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762

“Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.””

About 10% of Israelis were previously infected. About 90% of adults were vaccinated.

That disparity alone could (should) account for some significant number more cases among the vaccinated, if protection was equal. There are other confounding factors that might come into play, with small samples.

I’d expect natural immunity to be stronger, especially among those who had severe infections - but it does not follow that vaccine protection is weak. I think that would be the erroneous conclusion some would seek to paint.

Although they use the term “patients”, in the USA we would call them “Cases” - meaning positive tests, not hospitalizations, which is what “Patient” implies in the American context.

Vaccine protection from any infection is quite good - vaccine protection from Hospitalization and Death is profoundly powerful.


93 posted on 07/15/2021 11:27:27 AM PDT by BeauBo
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To: BeauBo

Re-reading the article I see what I missed last night.

The “previously infected” group includes those who were also vaccinated. That could be all of them, or practically so.

Real world evidence of the great protection provided by natural immunity and a shot- which has been consistently shown by in-vitro testing.


94 posted on 07/15/2021 12:27:07 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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