[fr_freak]

That’s my point, it’s a sport, not an actual fight.

While the increasing number of restrictive rules has, indeed, reduced the MMA to a sport, most of these guys are still trained martial artists before they even get to MMA, and they do their training before and after at full contact. Unless your guys were also training full contact, it is a bit of a fantasy to think your guys would take these guys down so easy. You shouldn't confuse what the MMA guys are allowed to do with what they know how to do.

[Bulwyf]

None of them train for actual hand to hand. There’s a big difference. I’ve seen it all, and nobody taps into gross motor skills fight or flight like good ol trench warfare hand to hand.

Karate, Tae Kwon do, kick boxing, jui-jistu etc, are all just a sport. I actually get very angry when people claim to be teaching others self defense when in reality they’re teaching them how to gain enough confidence to get very messed up in a real situation.