Posted on 07/11/2021 11:12:40 AM PDT by Olog-hai
Nope, you make a special case of chess-playing pigeon at this point.
You claimed that I am a liar, but after elaboration it boiled down to disagreement with my assessment of the American LNG exporters’ business model. Then asked why do I consider the European ‘greens’ traitors.
My point was that the American LNG producers can’t bring the product for the price acceptable in Europe and trade with East Asia instead.
You seem like disagree with this irrefutable statement but you to bring any comprehensive argument so far.
It is time to admit that you are wrong.
Proof by repeated assertion is still a logical fallacy.
What was in it for Joe Biden to get Nord Stream II restarted?
Biden didn’t have anything restarted. It wasn’t really stopped to start with. Biden’s statements regarding NSII are admittance that it makes stupid to piss against the wind.
As for the rest it is a little bit tiresome. You can repeat these Latin phrases you have no idea about but it doesn’t change much.
Once again, if there is a shortage of gas in Europe where are the American tankers to replenish the German reserves?
Are the American tankers banned from the European terminals? Yes or no, please.
Why are the American tankers in China instead?
The above are simple questions with simple answers, explaining why there is no alternative to NSII in Europe.
Germany is the ally of the United States. Why in the world you are trying to impose the equivalent of $20 per gallon gas on them?
In the exchange above you have expressed concerns about anti-Americanism.
I think your position explains why the popularity of the US is dwindling in Germany, and Russia is increasingly viewed as a more reliable partner.
It is absolutely self-inflicted.
LOL, yes, just a troll. I stop responding and he stops responding. Never mind another post of made-up stuff . . .
Yep, I feel how you are feeling embarrassed of yourself:) Not a single question answered, but I am a troll for some reason.what Latin phrase should I use to describe your behavior?
Just stop pushing the globalist propaganda, or if you do use some logic and reason, instead of the Latin phrases you don’t know the sense of.
Will you answer questions in post #63, or are you an East Eurooean propagandist?
I don’t answer red herring questions, and I got no answers for my questions anyhow.
BTW, LOL to “East European propagandist” . . . some bizarre left-wing neologism? Russia is part of Eastern Europe.
LOL. The red herring are questions why the American LNG tankers are coming to China and not Europe, allegedly suffering for ‘shortage’ and why should Europe refuse the alternative to the American gas which is not coming.
That’s the only legit questions for the purpose of the discussion.
As for your questions I allegedly didn’t answer, what questions? Like am I germanophile or not?
That’s the real red herring and there is a Latin term to it.
Heh, more proof by repeated assertion. And more refusal to answer valid questions that are actually related to the thread (I posted the thread, remember).
The more important question for which I await an answer is: After citing Biden as some kind of antagonist in this scenario, what moved him to enable Nord Stream II’s move forward while hobbling US gas production at the same time via his attacks on fracking and domestic/international pipelines (the more that’s produced, the lower the price can go)? Biden’s actions explicitly point to his being a beneficiary of Nord Stream II somehow.
The question is Biden a beneficiary or not is a red herring to start with. That is because the project is none of his bisuness nor he has power to affect it in any meaningful way.
What should he do if he was against the project? This entire narrative is pathetic.
Once again, what stops the American LNG from coming to Europe and doesn’t stop from coming to China right now?
You allegedly have the capacity, there is demand in Europe, but the tankers are coming to China.
And yet Europe has to believe in that good LNG and reject the evil pipeline gas, which keeps getting delivered without any problems according to contracts for affordable price.
What tankers, specifically?
You allegedly have the capacity, there is demand in Europe, but the tankers are coming to China …
No logic again, because Trump wasn’t right nor effective against NSII. It wasn’t Trump’s business either.
The American LNG was uncompetitive on price and scarce for European market and it stills is nowadays.
Biden banned Canadian pipelines is bad for the American energy consumers but it is definitely not bad for the American frackers.
As for the American LNG it was coming to China since the very beginning. What should I prove when it is a common knowledge?
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org › lo...
Web results
Long-term US-China liquefied natural gas trade will bring strategic benefits to both countries.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/energysource/long-term-us-china-liquefied-natural-gas-trade-will-bring-strategic-benefits-to-both-countries/&ved=2ahUKEwiO5eqd4uHxAhUolYsKHSNyDKAQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1Tw76TCJtKcPwxjacHnzGa&cshid=1626238437742
It was true under Trump and remains this way under Biden.
The reason is that the profit might be generated in China but not in Europe, unless the established European sources are dusrupted and price goes up significantly. And yet, no capacity in US even to meet domestic demand,let alone European, where natural gas is the prime energy source.
Hence you have destabilization of Ukraine, which is the energy hub between Europe and Russia, and an organized effort of all the European consumers to secure direct undersea pipelines with Russia.
That you are advocating is against Europe and for China, which would like to see the European economy undermined by scarce and expensive energy.
Says a person who used nothing but fallacies all over the discussion....
What anti-Trump? Why? Isn’t it a fallacy on your side?
Do you have sources disproving my point that the US LNG exporters are working for the Asian market?
Do you have at least a clue on a subject?
The reasons are clear. The tankers are coming where the price is the highest. The market doesn’t care about the European energy needs.
The same can’t be said about pipelines, keep pimpng into the original direction, putiing lies into the narratives of the ‘unreliable’ Russian sources.
If so, why are you pushing the globalist propaganda here, using leftist methods on top of it?
Germany is not the enemy of the United States, China is.
Now you are advocating undermining the Judeo-Christian civilization for the Chinese benefit.
It is not really conservative, you can’t prove your point, and try to lead the argument the way to entrap me and put labels on me. That instead of the legit argument where you don’t have facts on your side to argue.
How is it called? Would you come with another Latin term to label your own actions?
The idea is very clear. No American gas is going to get to Europe, because it is reserved for China and has been since day one. The entire operation is to keep the Russian gas flowing through this basket case Ukraine, making it unreliable and costly, but everybody behind the racket getting their cut, like Hunter Biden and company. It was taking place under Bush II, Obama, Trump and Biden.
I have no idea what is anti-Trump in it. A good call on Trump’s side should have been to keep away from it, instead of getting wagged into this game for the Democrat benefit.
Your accusations of propaganda are ridiculous, because everything of the above is true.
Yup, he was just trolling. I stopped replying and he stopped.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.