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Alaska cruise ends early after passengers test positive for COVID-19; next sailing canceled
The Points Guy ^ | July 10, 2021 | Gene Sloan

Posted on 07/11/2021 9:12:54 AM PDT by Capt. Tom

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I know there is not a lot of interest on these small USA cruise ships on FR, but I believe this points out the future problems every cruise line will face-that is vaccinated people onboard coming down with COVID.

They will be quarantined along with their healthy contacts.

This cruise line seems to have a "Stop the world, I want to get off" reaction to a COVID out break. But remember this is an American flagged cruise ship and is subject to American filed lawsuits by the other passengers. - Tom

1 posted on 07/11/2021 9:12:54 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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Pathetic.


2 posted on 07/11/2021 9:18:05 AM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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2021 is turning into a clown show.


3 posted on 07/11/2021 9:19:02 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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The cruise industry is screwed. I hate to say it, but even prior to Covid it was the #1 hotspot for outbreaks of norovirus and other more common illnesses.

We are now learning that even the vaccine does not stop you from getting the virus although it can mitigate the illness for some. Full disclosure, the fine print never said it prevented you from getting the virus.

If I owned a cruise line I would do a prophylactic cruise where everyone agrees to take the remedies before they board the boat (and during the cruise if more than 3 days). Somebody should try that idea to save the industry because under the current guidelines and public health policy the ships will remain idle.


4 posted on 07/11/2021 9:19:23 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: cgbg

The clowns are in charge.


5 posted on 07/11/2021 9:19:48 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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All of the passengers were required to be fully vaccinated to sail. Many, but not all, of the crew were fully vaccinated.

Huh?

6 posted on 07/11/2021 9:21:02 AM PDT by pfflier
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I hate to think how much it cost just to maintain a giant cruise ship. Has to be well over $25 million per year.


7 posted on 07/11/2021 9:22:21 AM PDT by LukeL
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Were all 3 fully vaccinated?
Were they showing any symptoms?

if a virus doesn’t show any symptoms... is it really a threat?


8 posted on 07/11/2021 9:23:14 AM PDT by Skywise
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All of the passengers were required to be fully vaccinated to sail. Many, but not all, of the crew were fully vaccinated.

Hmmmm.....so much for THAT requirement.

9 posted on 07/11/2021 9:24:50 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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It would serve as a good test of the efficacy of the prophylactics as well. For some reason, the CDC and leftist politicians do not seem to want to know if the prophylactics work.


10 posted on 07/11/2021 9:25:29 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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“We are now learning that even the vaccine does not stop you from getting the virus although it can mitigate the illness for some. Full disclosure, the fine print never said it prevented you from getting the virus.”

Full disclosure? Why do you intentionally mislead?


11 posted on 07/11/2021 9:26:19 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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We are now learning that even the vaccine does not stop you from getting the virus although it can mitigate the illness for some. Full disclosure, the fine print never said it prevented you from getting the virus.

The "vaccine" was never advertised as a way to not get the China Virus. Rather it was advertised as preventing serious illness or death should the person receiving the "vaccine" contract the virus.

To this day, I fail to understand why it's called a "vaccine" since traditional vaccines actually prevent an infection.

12 posted on 07/11/2021 9:27:02 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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I bet it’s much more than $25,000. The crew size is huge and then you have the fuel and maintenance.

Now you have to add in the cost of constant testing on the ship and when someone inevitably tests positive or becomes ill you have the ships stores on board that are completely wasted.

The food is good and it ain’t cheap. Fuel and food costs have both become more expensive. The profit margin for this industry was not that great before the pandemic with cheap energy and food costs.

The only answer will be to find people willing to cruise who accept that someone on the boat will test positive and they don’t care, but I don’t think many of us fully realize what is still being done in the name of the pandemic. There are still thousands of Australian citizens who have not been allowed to return home for a year due to Covid. Canada is still shut down.

These are goofy times.


13 posted on 07/11/2021 9:27:44 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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There are approximately a zillion diseases one could catch every day. On board ship or anywhere. Certainly some more lethal than COVID.

COVID just has a better press agent.

America is now operating like a grade school teacher making the whole class stay after school because one kid misbehaved.


14 posted on 07/11/2021 9:29:10 AM PDT by JennysCool ('It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.' - Mark Twain)
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Good point @ 12.

I think in hindsight, if Trump could have pushed anything harder during Covid he wishes he had pushed treatments as hard as the vaccine push. We could have done both.

I hear people say all the time that if there was a remedy they would not have gotten the EUA to allow the vaccines to be approved. That was nothing more than a pen swipe for Trump.

Instead, we let the media dominate the response for partisan purposes. The biggest bunch of moronic know-nothings in the history of humanity called the shots because orange man bad.


15 posted on 07/11/2021 9:30:09 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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Certainly some more lethal than COVID.

Exactly. There are many tropical diseases that could easily be spread by passengers or crew of cruise ships.

That is why I call 2021 a "clown show".

Homo Sapiens is devolving into mindless apes.
16 posted on 07/11/2021 9:32:17 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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Why am I misleading?

The media and Fraudci said the vaccine did things that those who made the vaccines never said. They have also neglected to talk about things the vaccines are doing that big pharma refuses to admit.


17 posted on 07/11/2021 9:33:23 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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Cruise lines have a bigger problem than Covid itself, it's bad press and regulation. A passenger sailing vessel is necessarily a place where communicable disease can spread quickly. Enclosed and confined quarters, people breathing the same air for extended periods of time, shared facilities, all of those things increase the odds that if someone has a disease and it can spread, that it will spread and quickly. Cruise lines can't pick and choose the origins of their guests, and they need to get as close to capacity as possible to make money (even moreso after a year and change of no voyages).

Knowing this, the cruise lines are trying to dance a very fine line. They need capacity cruises to get into the black financially, but every cruise represents a gamble because their entire business model involves being allowed to cycle as many people through their floating disease incubators as they can.

It's probably not so much of a gamble for the patrons, there are plenty of people out there just itching to get on a boat and turn off their brains for a week, covid be damned, and they accept the risks that go along with it. It's those government bureaucrats that think their entire job is to eliminate danger and risk from the world that are the real threat. Turn off a segment of customers and you market to a different segment. Become a concern of the government and there's no other government you can market to as an alternative.

18 posted on 07/11/2021 9:36:57 AM PDT by jz638
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Trump put Pence in charge. Pence actually received an email from a pair of doctors touting HCQ that was CC: to Fauxi.

After 3+ years of attacks, some even from repubs, Trump seemed a little gun shy.


19 posted on 07/11/2021 9:37:30 AM PDT by Pollard
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To be fair and appear impartial they should start testing people leaving grocery stores. When someone tests positive shut the store down.


20 posted on 07/11/2021 9:39:50 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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