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I know there is not a lot of interest on these small USA cruise ships on FR, but I believe this points out the future problems every cruise line will face-that is vaccinated people onboard coming down with COVID.

They will be quarantined along with their healthy contacts.

This cruise line seems to have a "Stop the world, I want to get off" reaction to a COVID out break. But remember this is an American flagged cruise ship and is subject to American filed lawsuits by the other passengers. - Tom

1 posted on 07/11/2021 9:12:54 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
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Pathetic.


2 posted on 07/11/2021 9:18:05 AM PDT by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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The cruise industry is screwed. I hate to say it, but even prior to Covid it was the #1 hotspot for outbreaks of norovirus and other more common illnesses.

We are now learning that even the vaccine does not stop you from getting the virus although it can mitigate the illness for some. Full disclosure, the fine print never said it prevented you from getting the virus.

If I owned a cruise line I would do a prophylactic cruise where everyone agrees to take the remedies before they board the boat (and during the cruise if more than 3 days). Somebody should try that idea to save the industry because under the current guidelines and public health policy the ships will remain idle.


4 posted on 07/11/2021 9:19:23 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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All of the passengers were required to be fully vaccinated to sail. Many, but not all, of the crew were fully vaccinated.

Huh?

6 posted on 07/11/2021 9:21:02 AM PDT by pfflier
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Were all 3 fully vaccinated?
Were they showing any symptoms?

if a virus doesn’t show any symptoms... is it really a threat?


8 posted on 07/11/2021 9:23:14 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Capt. Tom; metmom; grey_whiskers
All of the passengers were required to be fully vaccinated to sail. Many, but not all, of the crew were fully vaccinated.

Hmmmm.....so much for THAT requirement.

9 posted on 07/11/2021 9:24:50 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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There are approximately a zillion diseases one could catch every day. On board ship or anywhere. Certainly some more lethal than COVID.

COVID just has a better press agent.

America is now operating like a grade school teacher making the whole class stay after school because one kid misbehaved.


14 posted on 07/11/2021 9:29:10 AM PDT by JennysCool ('It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.' - Mark Twain)
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Cruise lines have a bigger problem than Covid itself, it's bad press and regulation. A passenger sailing vessel is necessarily a place where communicable disease can spread quickly. Enclosed and confined quarters, people breathing the same air for extended periods of time, shared facilities, all of those things increase the odds that if someone has a disease and it can spread, that it will spread and quickly. Cruise lines can't pick and choose the origins of their guests, and they need to get as close to capacity as possible to make money (even moreso after a year and change of no voyages).

Knowing this, the cruise lines are trying to dance a very fine line. They need capacity cruises to get into the black financially, but every cruise represents a gamble because their entire business model involves being allowed to cycle as many people through their floating disease incubators as they can.

It's probably not so much of a gamble for the patrons, there are plenty of people out there just itching to get on a boat and turn off their brains for a week, covid be damned, and they accept the risks that go along with it. It's those government bureaucrats that think their entire job is to eliminate danger and risk from the world that are the real threat. Turn off a segment of customers and you market to a different segment. Become a concern of the government and there's no other government you can market to as an alternative.

18 posted on 07/11/2021 9:36:57 AM PDT by jz638
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To be fair and appear impartial they should start testing people leaving grocery stores. When someone tests positive shut the store down.


20 posted on 07/11/2021 9:39:50 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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I’d live to see more info on the testing protocol in use. Saliva vs nasal, cycle threshold info, etc.

If I was one of the people getting locked up, I’d be getting a second opinion using a private lab.


21 posted on 07/11/2021 9:46:27 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Hubby and I went on a 7 day cruise to Alaska in 2015. Crew was all over us to use the foam hand cleaner that was stationed all over the boat. One morning, I wanted to sleep in a little and our housekeeping person was beside herself urging us out of the stateroom. While Alaska was beautiful, I could not wait to get off that boat. Never again


26 posted on 07/11/2021 10:19:22 AM PDT by PeachyKeen
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I really want to take a cruise for the first time. I appreciate & enjoy your threads.


29 posted on 07/11/2021 10:24:16 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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You MUST take this “vaccine” because otherwise you will get the virus, but if you take the “vaccine” you will still get the virus. Makes a lot of sense doesn’t it?


35 posted on 07/11/2021 10:47:05 AM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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Paranoia is going to kill the cruise industry.


36 posted on 07/11/2021 10:47:58 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: entropy12

Pinging entropy12. Hope your cruise goes better than this...


38 posted on 07/11/2021 10:53:40 AM PDT by ETCM
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Interesting that they required vaccines for the passengers but not the crew. And goes to show that the “vaccine” does not create immunity and is mostly worthless as a preventive course of action for the CCP flu. It would have been more interesting if the entire crew were vaccinated. Then what would they do?


40 posted on 07/11/2021 11:03:45 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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Ridiculous. Norovirus is more harmful than the Election Virus.


53 posted on 07/11/2021 2:11:16 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (While the foundations are being destroyed, what are the righteous doing?)
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The test gives 90% false positives. Much damage has been done in the name of the test.


55 posted on 07/11/2021 2:18:41 PM PDT by I want the USA back (To find out who really rules you, find out who you're not allowed to criticize. Voltaire. )
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Keep the info coming Capt Tom!


57 posted on 07/11/2021 4:31:50 PM PDT by Zathras
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