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FAA Fines Airline Passenger More Than $10K For Refusing To Wear Mask
The Hill ^ | 07/08/21 | CAROLINE VAKIL

Posted on 07/09/2021 9:41:43 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: precisionshootist

Since Deep State says it does.


21 posted on 07/09/2021 10:17:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: I want the USA back
“Wrong. The fine was for daring to defy authority. When the plane becomes airborne, you have lost your rights as a citizen.“

Then as soon as it lands you can tell them to take their fine and cram it where the sun don’t shine.

22 posted on 07/09/2021 10:17:27 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Enlightened1

And the FAA will use the IRS to steal the money. And then comes the CIA and FBI if guns are drawn. Watch out the FCC isn’t far behind to block your internet access too.


23 posted on 07/09/2021 10:17:44 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: ConservativeInPA

In any case, people stopped being passengers decades ago.

Now they’re cargo.


24 posted on 07/09/2021 10:18:06 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: ConservativeInPA
When the plane becomes airborne, you have lost your rights as a citizen. Correct. It clearly falls under the Except Clause of the US Constitution.“

Exactly the Constitution is for we the people not we the airborne people.

25 posted on 07/09/2021 10:20:26 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: mewzilla
Now they’re cargo.

That's one of many reason why I don't fly. I can't stand fat, ugly and faggot flight attendants. They all have become bitches. Not at all like the old days.

26 posted on 07/09/2021 10:22:36 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ConservativeInPA

FWIW, I don’t care what the FAs look like.

I care that I’m being charged through the nose to be squeezed into a tin can like a sardine. That I can’t get a direct flight to anywhere but crime-ridden hell holes I don’t even want to transfer through, that I can drive quicker than I could fly in many cases, that ontime is a lie, that my baggage gets lost.

I haven’t flown in over a decade.

Won’t be flying any time soon.


27 posted on 07/09/2021 10:27:54 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: ConservativeInPA

BTW, I’m old enough to remember what flying used to be like.

Another reason why I drive or don’t go.


28 posted on 07/09/2021 10:29:21 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: Enlightened1

I am sorry, what crime? what conviction?


29 posted on 07/09/2021 10:37:59 AM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: AppyPappy

Some of us need to travel, and it takes too long to cross the sea by boat…


30 posted on 07/09/2021 10:38:48 AM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: FamiliarFace
I agreed to visit my friend in Minnesota for a gallery exhibition of hers that will be opening soon, and I will be flying there.

You can't be seriously asking us for advice about how to "game" the system (e.g., poking little holes in the mask, etc.)!

Attending an art exhibition is definitely not a life-and-death matter.

Either stay home, or drive!

Regards,

31 posted on 07/09/2021 10:47:37 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Irenic

They could do a lot more than fine you. If.your actions are interfering with the crew which includes flight attendants from doing their job they can and will throw you in jail with a felony record. Never NEVER mess with an FAA certified flight crew member.

Notice the clause of interfering it’s separate from the assault clause one does not have to include the other. That comma is very important as is the or which in legal English is exclusive as in either or not the common inclusive or.

49 U.S. Code § 46504.Interference with flight crew members and attendants
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An individual on an aircraft in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States who, by assaulting or intimidating a flight crew member or flight attendant of the aircraft, interferes with the performance of the duties of the member or attendant or lessens the ability of the member or attendant to perform those duties, or attempts or conspires to do such an act, shall be fined under title 18, imprisoned for not more than 20 years, or both. However, if a dangerous weapon is used in assaulting or intimidating the member or attendant, the individual shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.

(Pub. L. 103–272, § 1(e), July 5, 1994, 108 Stat. 1244; Pub. L. 107–56, title VIII, § 811(i), Oct. 26, 2001, 115 Stat. 382.)


32 posted on 07/09/2021 10:51:49 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: FamiliarFace

If you know someone who sews, you could probably have a couple made that APPEAR to be pleated, but are just strips across, with openings at each strip, or one in the middle. You might be able to achieve this yourself, with scissors and a store-bought mask, but look for the style with horizontal pleats.


33 posted on 07/09/2021 10:55:57 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Irenic

Max fine was increased by Congress to $37,000 per incident, they have the full weight of congressional law behind them only the Supreme Court could strike down the fines.

https://www.faa.gov/data_research/passengers_cargo/unruly_passengers/

“The repercussions for passengers who engage in unruly behavior can be substantial. They can be fined by the FAA or prosecuted on criminal charges.
As part of the FAA’s Reauthorization Bill (PDF) FAA can propose up to $37,000 per violation for unruly passenger cases. Previously, the maximum civil penalty per violation was $25,000. One incident can result in multiple violations.
Page last modified: July 09, 2021 9:12:35 AM EDT”


34 posted on 07/09/2021 10:57:01 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: FamiliarFace

I just flew from Boston to Dallas 2 days ago. I think I wore more my mask properly for about an hour total. This was American Airlines. The rest of the time I had it around my chin or off completely while I ate or drank. Nobody said shit. Maybe it’s different on other airlines.


35 posted on 07/09/2021 10:59:20 AM PDT by strider44
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To: Enlightened1

The FAA is not a medical agency. They can offer no proof that the masks help in the least. I’m thinking these fines are to make up lost revenue. The more this crap is pushed, the more lost revenue there should be. For those who don’t have to fly because of business obligations, I would say ...”Don’t Fly”. I sure don’t intend to until they get over this foolishness.


36 posted on 07/09/2021 11:03:03 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: Zathras

Love it!


37 posted on 07/09/2021 11:04:03 AM PDT by Enlightened1 ( )
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To: Mathews

The airlines are going to go out of business.

This will kill Europe, no tourists.

This will kill California, no tourists.

This will kill the Bahamas, no tourists.

If I can’t drive there, then I’ll stay at home.

All the idiots at the airlines that actually believe that masks protect anyone from a virus deserve to be out of business. It’s all fiction and no real science.

If they had the Science to back up their actions, I might comply, but.....they do not. Pseudo science at best.


38 posted on 07/09/2021 11:06:34 AM PDT by Enlightened1 ( )
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To: twoputt

The airlines are the only “service” that attempts to criminalize customer complaints.

Any other industry would implode if they acted like the carriers, driven by the flight attendants union.

It’s great fun to fly foreign carriers: the whole experience is the opposite. American carriers? The crews act like you’re cattle and they’re the herders.


39 posted on 07/09/2021 11:08:52 AM PDT by Regulator (It's Fraud, Jim)
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To: oldtech

It’s not up to the FAA they are under the executive branch and so is the CDC which has ordered the FAA to enforce a executive branch ruling of the mask mandate. Only only Congress can via legislation and a veto proof majority override the executive branch you know that grade school checks and balances thing.

That said since the FAA is under executive orders to enforce the mask mandate they have the full force of USC code on their side they can fine up top $250,000 and 20 years in jail for assaulting a flight attendant, up to $37,000 per incident for just disobedience to a flight attendant who is giving instructions based on executive mandate. You have zero recourse to not obey while in flight the crew have absolute authority while airborne and the full force of the federal government’s agency’s behind them the FIBs will take over in a flash at the request of a flight crew as will US Marshals the ride won’t be fun not cheap. Rand Paul has said as soon as the Senate is back in session he will try to get a law passed to revoke the CDC mask mandate but I doubt chairman Xi will sign it so it will need to be veto proof.


40 posted on 07/09/2021 11:12:27 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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