I just love hydrogen explosions ...
This green dream faces huge costs and obstacles to generate the extra electricity, mine the battery metals, establish reliable battery charging stations all over the country and cope with battery disposal problems. Hydrogen-fuelled cars would improve city air quality at the vast expense of producing, handling and dispensing a dangerous gas.
Liberal ideas about environmentally friendly sources of energy are patently elitist. ANY plan that means senior citizens must ruin themselves for home energy is undeniably 'elitist'!!
Do these fidiots ever think beyond their friggin’ noses? Quit depriving my plants of much needed nourishment.
I just love hydrogen explosions ...
Next ftom Gang Green: compulsory fart harvesting.
How about Unicorn Farts?
However, I do tire of the anti-hydrogen articles.
Yes, hydrogen production is not free (and not clean if we take it from hydrocarbons). But in general, it is still a ideal transport fuel in terms of user friendliness.
#1: The tanks for cars that can hold gigajoules of hydrogen, vent VERY rapidly. You’re car may in fact have a flare of hydrogen if the tank is punctured, but it will be a rapid flare, maybe 2 seconds max. A lithium ion battery fire lasts HOURS. The amount of hydrogen in a car would not be eventful at FULL RELEASE. Everybody is thinking Hindenberg, when it will merely be a small/short fizzle.
#2: Energy to produce is the next big fallacy. I literally see no comparison of the cost of hydrogen separation by electrolysis or from hydrocarbons, to the cost to extract/refine/turn into battery of the rare items that go into Lithium ion batteries. Which leads me to believe Lithium Ion wouldn’t look so good.
#3: A big healthy nuclear power sector, and lots of solar panels, you can produce hydrogen and store it as a battery of sorts. Because battery manufacturers are so tight lipped about energy consumption in the production of lithium ion batteries, I don’t have numbers to compare efficiencies. But given the simplicity of hydrogen and hydrogen fuel cells, I am willing to bet 100$ that hydrogen wins.
#4: Fillup will be a LOT quicker than a Lithium Ion battery.
#5: For nostalgia types like me, we can burn it in our piston engines, not very efficiently, compared to hydrogen “burned” in a fuel cell, but still....
But, but, but, I recently had a conversation on a thread here where the other person claimed that all that had to be done to break water into hydrogen and oxygen was to heat it with an underwater arc welder.
The person wrote wrote this nonsense, an Australian dairy farmer, is a scientific ignoramus.
Which is why American Stinker makes it difficult to know anything about the “credentials” of those whose output litters its pages.
Wherever we travel in the West, we find the once-beautiful vistas we cherished are GONE. Forever GONE. Replaced by endless forests of windmills.
The greenie banshies wailed and shrieked for years about a few offshore oil platforms ruining the ocean vistas in Southern California. But somehow they are happy with hundreds of thousands of these infernal machines all over the national landscape.
I keep waiting for the greenies to wake up to the rapidly vanishing beauty of America and start complaining about that.
There has been a somewhat successful grass-roots effort to stop wind farms. I read last week that over 300 wind farm projects have been squashed by active locals who do not want the infernal machines in their towns and locales.
Wind and solar are the MOST STUPID way to generate electricity imaginable. The wind and sun resource has extremely low energy density so it takes HUGE amounts of land, steel and concrete to generate a relatively small amount of power.
It’s all good until you have a gasket leak......
“Hydro-gen” means “born of water,”
Oceans get tapped for the bonus round sea level lowers.
A fact never mentioned anywhere is a free market is naturally super energy efficient, which is why all unsound ideas run out of replacement energy super fast. Big government is super energy inefficient and sucks limited energy resources out of the economy with little to show for it. To save the Erf, the biggest low hanging fruit to grab first is to slash taxes (energy suck) and government spending (energy burn). Big government lovers: eat them apples.
James May of Top Gear fame recently bought a hydrogen powered car. He admits that there are only 3 filling stations in England so he uses it a a second car. He likes the quiet ride.
He paid $65,000 pounds to be green.
His car:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v99AthjW78U
>>For hydrogen to replace coal, oil and gas would require immense quantities of hydrogen, needing huge quantities of reliable electricity to generate it.<<
Not sure that is a correct statement with all due respect. Take a look. A few years ago, a radio station owner was diagnosed with cancer and was researching a way to kill the cancer and not healthy cells...brilliant mind this guy had.
Ended up discovering that if you injected copper sulfide into a hot dog weenie, placed the weenie in the path of high frequency radio waves, the area injected with the copper sulfide would heat up..leaving the remainder of the weenie..unaffected.
I say that to say this. The radio station owner inadvertently discovered a way to agitate hydrogen and oxygen molecules by injecting these same high frequency radio waves on to a beaker of saltwater, thus releasing the hydrogen.
Two universities picked up his research at the end of his life and thereafter...verified the results.
Imagine ocean water being turned to fuel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlML5ZFbwqA
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/canWaterBurn.php
https://www.livescience.com/1861-remarkable-discovery-scientists-burn-saltwater.html
We can run our world on hope.
Hydrogen is a byproduct of nuclear.