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Jefferson’s “original Rough draught” of the Declaration of Independence full audio
Youtube ^ | 1776 | Thomas Jefferson

Posted on 07/04/2021 6:45:21 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

This is the full reading of the original rough draft version of the United States Declaration of Independence. It is read directly from the transcript, without the filter of historians trying to control the narrative in one direction or the other.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: declaration; independence; jefferson
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This audio is open source and as such, feel free to copy and reproduce any way you want.

https://librivox.org/short-nonfiction-collection-vol-066-by-various/

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1 posted on 07/04/2021 6:45:21 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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Here it is set to music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2lTIh536jY


2 posted on 07/04/2021 6:49:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
It is read directly from the transcript, without the filter of historians trying to control the narrative in one direction or the other.

Glad to read that! A while ago (MLK birthday perhaps) someone posted the audio version of 'Letter from a Birmingham Jail' with the warning 'Not what you think.' I never did ask what alterations was made to make it different than what 'I would think.'
3 posted on 07/04/2021 6:58:35 PM PDT by posterchild
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Bkmk


4 posted on 07/04/2021 7:02:00 PM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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Bkmk


5 posted on 07/04/2021 7:08:05 PM PDT by FL_Native
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Did I hear that wrong, or did he take a major slap at slavery?


6 posted on 07/04/2021 7:14:11 PM PDT by dsc (Abortion is the axe laid to the roots of the tree of human rights.)
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He absolutely did. From the begining they were trying to contain slavery.


7 posted on 07/04/2021 7:16:00 PM PDT by cowboyusa (America Cowboy up! )
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Yes, Jefferson pointed out that slavery came from the Empire and that the King was vetoing abolitionist laws which were attempted to be passed in various colonial Houses of Burgesses and Colonial Congresses, etc.

America would be very different today had abolitionism been allowed to take place prior to Independence Day.

Even though those laws were vetoed, it is still a powerful push back against Critical Race Theory.


8 posted on 07/04/2021 7:17:50 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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“Did I hear that wrong, or did he take a major slap at slavery?”

He took a major slap at the King of England.

Jefferson’s philippic against slavery was not included in the Declaration of Independence for reasons explained in his contemporaneous notes.


9 posted on 07/04/2021 7:30:53 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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Incredible. Any historians here who have an approx. number how many rewrites Jefferson did? It must have been huge


10 posted on 07/04/2021 7:39:39 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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The major ideological paragraph which excoriates the King's slavery is missing, but there are some historians who have said that the very first grievance is still a reference to those vetoed abolitionist laws.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

It is true that Americans(then British Subjects) viewed slavery as un-wholesome, and they viewed abolitionism as a public good.

It is also true that the King refused his assent to America's abolitionist laws by purposefully vetoing those laws or having his creatures commit the veto.

It does qualify on both sides of the listed grievance. There were much large issues at play and many other vetoed laws but it would be incorrect to wipe slavery out entirely. That would not be within the spirit of 1776.

11 posted on 07/04/2021 7:40:57 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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He died on July 4th as did John Adams, same day 1826. Abraham Lincoln was 17.


12 posted on 07/04/2021 7:46:53 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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And a huge fan of Jefferson.(Lincoln)

Which is really interesting because slave owners hated Jefferson. You would think based on today’s protests and torching of Autozones that Jefferson was beloved among slave owners as the South’s chosen son.

Realistically, “Jefferson’s racism” was entirely a secret BOTH to northern abolitionists who loved him and southern slavers who hated his guts. You could even say (antagonistically) that the racism of the Founders was the single best kept secret of the Civil War. Nothing even comes close in terms of secrets kept, it’s a paragon to secrecy.

(Note: “Jefferson’s racism” is a statement I wholly disagree with [And too the wider “Founder’s racism” narrative] but the charge is leveled everywhere you look, it seems)


13 posted on 07/04/2021 7:53:53 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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Yep. The only thing Jefferson was concerned with at the time was independence from England which would have never ever happened if he focused on emancipation as well, they left that to future generations.


14 posted on 07/04/2021 8:08:46 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free equal justice under the law will never exist in the USA)
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Bump for later


15 posted on 07/04/2021 9:28:00 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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Jefferson’s “original Rough draught” of the Declaration of Independence full audio

Thankfully the other members of the committee outvoted him or there never would have been a United States.

Jefferson's original version would have collapsed support for the movement, and we would have remained part of England.

16 posted on 07/04/2021 9:58:57 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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He tried, but the other members of the committee stripped out that language because they weren't stupid.

If that language had been left in, support for independence would have collapsed.

17 posted on 07/04/2021 10:00:25 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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America would be very different today had abolitionism been allowed to take place prior to Independence Day.

The US would have remained part of England. Your sentiment is also baloney because at the time the constitution was written, almost all the states were still slave states. They had had 11 years to pass abolition laws, yet they were all still slave states. Massachusetts was only a "free" state because of judicial activism and a ridiculous interpretation of the state's new constitution by a liberal activist court.

18 posted on 07/04/2021 10:03:57 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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"Your sentiment is also baloney because at the time the constitution was written, almost all the states were still slave states"

Your belief is based on largely the same bankrupt propaganda as what the progressives push.

The automatic assumption on part of progressives is that a slave owner is automatically destined to be pro slavery. That may have been the case in most of the world for centuries, but that wasn't the case in America.

The abolition if slavery necessarily required sabotage of slavery on part of slave owners otherwise not a single one of those states that became free states would've become free states. In other words there would've been no North to participate in the Civil War you constantly re-litigate.

"They had had 11 years to pass abolition laws, yet they were all still slave states."

They had a lot more than 11 years, and Massachusetts wasn't the only state that became a free state, and states like Vermont and those in the Northwest came into the Union freesoil-on-day-one because of Jefferson's abolitionist ordinance.

The Northern abolitionists were dead on to hold Jefferson in high regard. Unlike school kids today, there's a high probability that school kids in the 1820s may well have read the full text of the Northwest Ordinance as a matter of course. They would've held the original source material in their fingers.

19 posted on 07/04/2021 11:25:16 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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“Jefferson’s philippic against slavery was not included in the Declaration of Independence for reasons explained in his contemporaneous notes.”

I can’t believe I never heard this before.

All I can say, I guess, is “duh.”


20 posted on 07/05/2021 5:26:36 AM PDT by dsc (Abortion is the axe laid to the roots of the tree of human rights.)
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