[Vlad0]

I'm in agreement with much of your analysis, but differ in my interpretation of what it means.

Yes, they are deliberately using a Roman/fascist symbol. (Of course it's quite commonly used in American public buildings too. The Lincoln memorial, Chicago's City Hall, many others)

Chicago City Hall

They are explicitly calling out the "pan-European" part of their ideology.

You have applied the term "White Supremacist" to them, that is a left-wing term, designed to put white people in a box with the nasty sounding name on it.

It's straight out of the SPLC dictionary, and they are quite liberal in their application of it. They will stick it on anyone right of Chairman Mao if they can. So, I avoid it, and so did they. I can disagree with their ideology (the Patriot Front) without smearing them with prejudicial terms invented by our enemies.

The term "pan-African" has been used for decades to describe groups that organize around their common heritage. (I first learned it in a high school class, in the 1970s)

Here is the intro to the Wikipedia entry for Pan Africanism:

Pan-Africanism is a worldwide movement that aims to encourage and strengthen bonds of solidarity between all indigenous and diaspora ethnic groups of African descent. Based on a common goal dating back to the Atlantic slave trade, the movement extends beyond continental Africans with a substantial support base among the African diaspora in the Americas and Europe.

Based on the belief that unity is vital to economic, social, and political progress and aims to "unify and uplift" people of African descent.

Any attempt by whites to organize to benefit ourselves is defined by our enemies as "Nazism" or "White Supremacy" while all other groups are praised and supported in organizing themselves for their mutual benefit.

Many majority black countries have "Pan African affairs" ministries, or government departments for dealing with other black countries.

To Boomers in America, like me, it seems odd to organize in this way. But I was born into a country that was almost 90% white (still over 88% white in 1970). There was no reason to organize as white people in America for our mutual benefit, the whole country was ours.

That's not what it's like for white kids now, though. In many public schools the white kids are a minority, and they are constantly indoctrinated with "white guilt", which many Americans are only now learning about (Critical Race Theory) but which has been in the schools for decades now.

Do you really want to continue to deny white young people the tools that every other group have?

I found the Wikipedia page for this group. Wikipedia is obviously a highly left-wing organization, so as you would expect the article on this group is pretty negative. What I found interesting about it though is this:

The Patriot Front is led by Thomas Ryan Rousseau. Rousseau was a teenager in Fort Worth, Texas, at the time he founded the group,

That was in 2017, so at most he's in his early 20s now.

The "Conservative Movement" failed to conserve most things that allowed us to live decent lives. As we've seen, the legal system is a tool of oppression now, elections are manipulated or fixed outright, drugs are everywhere, the culture is a toxic soup, children are assaulted by sexual deviancy in every corner of their lives, and the ethnic cohesion of the country has been destroyed. White kids are a hated minority in the nation that their great grandparents hewed out of the wilderness. Many of them have internalized the self-hatred. They want to destroy their "whiteness", by tattooing themselves from nose to toes, extravagant piercings, purple and green hair. And of course, they want to tear down what little remains of our once decent American civilization.

Arrest booking photos of Portland antifa arrested in riots over the last year.

I'm not going to fault them for looking at all the options out there, and using the same tools that their tormenters use. That it includes explicit group-organizing strategies, so be it. The blacks have the Black Congressional Caucus. Make that disappear and I might be willing to encourage these 20 year olds to take a different path. But, frankly, the ones that the Conservative movement has taken during my life have failed, pretty completely. I'm not going to go too hard on the people who have been left holding the bag.

Rome was certainly the greatest example of a United and powerful Europe (and parts of Africa and the Middle East), and I can understand how to a 20 year old White American there is something inspirational about that, which they just don't see in a lot of what is on offer around them.

Happy Independence Day!

[blueunicorn6]

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The freshman class at Barack Obama High School.

[Wallace T.]

I agree that the white supremacist term I used is inaccurate, and evident of the degree to which leftist ideology can affect someone who thinks he is not susceptible. White separatists or white nationalists would be more accurate terms.

However, the United States was not founded on the basis of white or European nationalism. The founding documents, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, were written by men who were primarily influenced by Biblical teaching and secondarily by the Enlightenment. Thomas Jefferson was more influenced by the latter, whereas Hamilton and Madison were more influenced by the former. While the Founding Fathers were overwhelmingly Protestant and, to a great extent, Calvinist, their beliefs respective to religion were tolerant towards Catholics, Jews, Unitarians, and even nonbelievers, though the last group was often barred from public office. America was never a melting pot of either all races or European descendants, but a nation founded mainly by descendants of English and Scottish immigrants. Other people, from the Germans, Irish, and Scandinavians in the mid-1800s, the Italians, Jews, and Eastern Europeans in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and the Hispanics and Asians in the 1960s and thereafter, assimilated and became Americanized, taking on and influencing the British based existing culture.

I concur that there is inherent unfairness in the mainstream culture and Federal and many state governments encouraging black, Hispanic, and Asian grievances and hostility toward whites but on the other hand coming down harshly on whites who would nurture their grievances. Thus, BLM and Antifa (made up mostly of self-hating whites) can protest at will, burn down hundreds of properties, and kill and maim people. Yet when a group like the Proud Boys fight back, police and prosecutors, local and Federal, will pursue them as if they were al-Qaida or the Mafia.

Never forget that our enemies are wily; the events of the "Reichstag Fire" of January 6th is evidence of their skills. They know that there are elements among young whites who resent the inherent unfairness. That is where the FBI and other Federal agencies, as well as the ADL and SPLC, become involved. They set up front groups, lure susceptible people into them with inflammatory rhetoric, and lure them into violent acts. If the FBI stops them, they will brag how they stopped "violent extremists" from some horrible plot and use it to increase their funding. If they decide to run a false flag, the MSM will run with it for days as a top story. Democrats and many Republicans, who say nothing about leftist terrorism, will loudly proclaim how they are opposed to these "violent extremists".

The bottom line is that no conservative or patriot of any age should join groups that are set up to support the narrative.