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To: blueplum

It took time to figure all this out, so you can’t really claim people were ‘denied treatment’
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I absolutely claim people were ‘denied treatment’.

Both Ivermectin and HCQ were well tolerated, FDA approved drugs. There was NO reason to suddenly declare them worse than dying of untreated respiratory disease. They could have permitted off-label prescription but the CDC/FDA came down hard and made an exception of these two drugs - patients weren’t even give a ‘right to try’ or an ‘Emergency Use Authorization’. They were simply told to go home (untreated) and return when they needed hospitalization.

The fact that these drugs are lied about and suppressed to this day, the fact that the CDC/FDA don’t even mention these drugs and act like the only viable treatments are ‘vaccines,’ all the lying they are still doing to push these ‘vaccines’ confirms that safe effective treatments were and are being withheld.


9 posted on 07/03/2021 1:17:29 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

I was an early proponent of HCQ. Seemed like a miracle pill and it was our first best hope. But if there’s any ‘secret’ to HCQ and Ivermectin learned since is it has to be used either very early or very late - a lot of the studies say before day 7. And, with a 98% survival rate anyway, is it the HCQ or would the ‘early’ users have survived anyway?

I’d also point to Brazil - HCQ and Iver have been in heavy use at street level for over a year now, openly encouraged by Bolsonaro, at different dosing and different intervals. Invermectin is $5 for 4 and HCQ kits are sold cheaply at the local pharmacies. But even with neighborhood-level distribution, their survival rate fell below 98% and younger people got sicker. If HCQ was a miracle pill, the opposite would be true, even adjusted for poverty.

https://www.news18.com/news/world/brazil-study-finds-hcq-ineffective-for-covid-19-after-bolsonaro-pushes-for-widespread-use-of-drug-2731003.html

According to a recent pre-print observational study that is being panned, on already ventilated patients at very high doses “specifically those receiving >3,000mg HCQ and >1g azithromycin” there might be some effect, but serum levels were cumulative, and 80% of the patients died out of 88%. It’s claimed in the comments that to get to cumulative serum levels one would have to survive a further 10 days minimum while dosed (weight dependent):
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.28.21258012v1

Here’s a synopsis of the very early HCQ studies, even some since discredited. All point to “early treatment’ as the key to their optimism. But none are as optimistic as invermectin, and neither are as effective as clinical treatments developed in the past year.

http://www.hydroxystudy.info/1.pdf

The vaccine isn’t perfect, but even after 18 months, we don’t have a magic pill, either.


21 posted on 07/09/2021 4:00:16 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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