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Giuliani's Suspension: Questionable Statements, But Not by Him
American Thinker ^ | 1 Jul, 2021 | John O'Connor

Posted on 07/01/2021 3:42:54 AM PDT by MtnClimber

On motion by an Attorney Grievance Committee, a New York Appellate Court suspended Rudy Giuliani, a member of President Donald Trump's personal legal team, from the practice of law for making supposedly false claims about the 2020 U.S. presidential election. Most of the public will read headlines and short articles about the foregoing and assume that Giuliani was proven to a court's satisfaction to have knowingly lied. But upon closer examination of the ruling by the New York appellate court, we see clearly questionable statements — not by Giuliani, but about him.

What was bizarre about this ruling, especially to any experienced lawyer, is that Giuliani was suspended before it was even determined preliminarily that an investigation of him should be opened. The court disqualified Giuliani on an emergency ad hoc basis, implicating Trump's Sixth Amendment right to counsel and Giuliani's First Amendment right to free speech. The court's ruling also does not find problematic the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, requiring a due process hearing before any deprivation of a right, privilege, or property interest.

So what justified this pre-hearing, pre-investigation suspension, based on conduct not even remotely involving the State of New York? The court was concerned that Giuliani might cast doubt on the legitimacy of the duly elected president, Joseph R. Biden, a claimed legitimacy the court repeated to distraction. The ruling claims that Giuliani's "false statements intended to foment a loss of confidence in our elections and resulting loss of confidence in government generally." Moreover, Giuliani "tarnishes the reputation of the entire legal profession" besides "the falsehoods themselves caus[ing] harm." After all, we would not want the trusting public to think some lawyers are sleazy; that our government would lie; or, horrors, that a local urban government would be incompetent.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: communism; corruption

1 posted on 07/01/2021 3:42:54 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

If they can do this to Rudy (and Trump), they can do this to anyone.


2 posted on 07/01/2021 3:43:04 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

The purpose of the First Amendment was to be able to voice criticism of government without retaliation by government. In the current climate, a person cannot criticize a political party nor question their integrity without reprisal.


3 posted on 07/01/2021 3:53:07 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: MtnClimber

The powers that be also don’t want his son to be governor. So they’ll sling crap far and wide.


4 posted on 07/01/2021 4:35:53 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: MtnClimber

No due process.

But them were no longer a republic, are we.

The law is what Deep State says it is.


5 posted on 07/01/2021 4:38:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: MtnClimber
That was the point I suspect.

Pour encourager les autres...

6 posted on 07/01/2021 4:39:34 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: MtnClimber

Run it up the flagpole knowing it’s a lie. Just to put his name in a bad light. Needs to be counter suits. A way to get them back.


7 posted on 07/01/2021 4:39:44 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: MtnClimber
Is it even possible for Guiliani to "tarnishes the reputation of the entire legal profession"?

Giuliani "tarnishes the reputation of the entire legal profession"

8 posted on 07/01/2021 4:45:29 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: MtnClimber

People lie every day. Policemen lie..as a matter of policy...while interviewing alleged criminals.


9 posted on 07/01/2021 4:59:50 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: HighSierra5

That’s what it’s about.


10 posted on 07/01/2021 5:00:19 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: MtnClimber

You have to admit God has a really great sense of humor. Immediately following this ruling NYC is caught running an election with 135,000 test ballots counted. LOL those judges look like the corrupt a$$es they are.


11 posted on 07/01/2021 5:06:04 AM PDT by McGavin999 (biden is not my president )
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To: MtnClimber

And they have.

This extends right down to the demonization that occurs here at good ol’FR.


12 posted on 07/01/2021 5:14:39 AM PDT by sauropod (The smartphone is the retina of the mind's eye.)
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To: sauropod

But.... what if Rudy was right?


13 posted on 07/01/2021 6:09:09 AM PDT by CaptainKip
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To: MtnClimber

A lot of people need to read this article for some understanding of fraud claims, and legal arguments pertaining to them - and how legal terms of art were intentionally misconstrued outside of their context.


14 posted on 07/01/2021 6:33:20 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: CaptainKip

That’d be even worse.


15 posted on 07/01/2021 6:45:52 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: MtnClimber

They had to do this so Rudy couldn’t help Trump right now


16 posted on 07/01/2021 7:01:12 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: DJ MacWoW

This is how it works today - the “government” can’t do anything to you because of the 1st Amendment. So, they created and sanctioned several alphabet agencies and “professional agencies” who then trample all over your 1st Amendment rights...and the government says, “I’m sorry your rights are being trampled but it wasn’t me! So, it just sucks to be you!”

This is why the Deep State/Bureaucracy of our local, state, and Federal governments are KILLING our rights, and we have no direct recourse.

We can replace the politicians, but they never end nor curtail those behemoth monster agencies, at best they “reform them” usually creating whole new problems with which to deal...either way, everything continues, just as planned...
We the People lose our rights!
Government gains more control!
Useful idiots don’t realize they are losing control, because the government told them everything is okay!


17 posted on 07/01/2021 10:30:47 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (Diversity is tolerance; diverse points of views will not be tolerated.)
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