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Has anyone tried opting out of the Child Tax Credit advance yet? (Vanity)
self | 6/27/2021 | GenXFreedomFighter

Posted on 06/27/2021 6:05:51 PM PDT by GenXFreedomFighter

Has anyone started the process of opting out of the Child Tax Credit advance? I have, and it scares the hell out of me.

The IRS website sends you to a partner company website called ID.me. They start by asking for your cell phone number so they can establish 2-factor identification. I figure no sweat, so I did that. Then they want you to take photos of the front and back of your driver's license. I figure the federal government probably already has that data anyway, so I did that. Then they want you to take a selfie. A series of flashing lights somehow verifies that the picture is live and not a photograph. After that they want you to record your voiceprint using your smartphone. The selfie is where I froze in my tracks and stopped the process.

Does this bother anyone else?

I read the terms of consent and the company policy on use of the biometric data they are collecting. This data is shared with the client on whose behalf you are registering yourself (e.g., the IRS). It says that some of their clients are banks or merchants. It makes sense to me that some folks might want the tightest security possible to protect their financial interests, but this is the U.S. government compelling me to provide identifying biometric information to stop this tax money advance that I do not want.

So in addition to this tax advance being a buyoff to certain sectors of the voting public, it's also a Trojan horse compelling those who want to refuse it to give up some privacy.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: biometrics; idme; privacy; surveillance
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Am I paranoid, or is my fear of giving my government even more power to spy on me justified?
1 posted on 06/27/2021 6:05:51 PM PDT by GenXFreedomFighter
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

Tell computers as little as possible.


2 posted on 06/27/2021 6:08:29 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

This sounds like a scam. Last I read the only people with children are getting the current check and no further action is needed, just like the previous checks.


3 posted on 06/27/2021 6:12:04 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

Unless you have big buck$ to hire lieyahs and plenty of time and patience to deal with the US Legal System as a Deplorable, it’s likely best to keep a very low Digital Profile [Stealth even].


4 posted on 06/27/2021 6:13:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

I had to do that for unemployment in AZ. I didn’t have a problem but a lot of other ppl in my FB unemployment group did. It’s legit but definitely scary.


5 posted on 06/27/2021 6:13:52 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Irish lives matter!)
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

Geez...you gave ‘em too much info already.


6 posted on 06/27/2021 6:14:02 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

To answer your question, I would say BOTH are true.
Now, please answer a question for me. What in Sam Hill is “Child Tax Credit”? Is that about declaring a tax deduction because you may have dependents? I thought that was a matter of qualifying for the exemption.


7 posted on 06/27/2021 6:15:26 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: TomServo

The voice print is given to the NSA and loaded up ion the server farm. As the computer processes every call looking for key words, the voice print will be used to identify you. This assumes your using a burner phone and trigger the algorithm.


8 posted on 06/27/2021 6:18:15 PM PDT by RBW in PA
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

I don’t have kids so I can’t do it, but I went to the id.me website. It is used not only by government but also private agencies. Looks legit but not sure of the point of opting out; sounds like if you do you’ll claim the credit when you file your taxes.

This is the section about verifying for government reason; scroll down about halfway where they show the process. https://www.id.me/business/government

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/advance-child-tax-credit-payments-in-2021 for those who wonder what the advance payment is about.


9 posted on 06/27/2021 6:21:19 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (Idiots are of two kinds: those who try to be smart and those who think they are smart.)
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To: lee martell

It’s where you get your free tickets to DisneyWorld. Four little kids, $1200 every 30 days.


10 posted on 06/27/2021 6:30:04 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

States use ID.me to verify identity for unemployment benefits. It’s a real PITA to use.


11 posted on 06/27/2021 6:30:37 PM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: lee martell

You must not have dependent children.

You can claim a credit of $2,000 per child on your return. The Biden administration is doling out advances on that credit starting in mid-July as a Covid relief measure. The payments will total half of the credit, meaning that if you take the advances you can only claim half the credit on your 2021 return. You have to go to the IRS website if you want to opt out and claim the full credit next year. I did that and the onboarding process with this so-called ID protection partner is a doozy.

I did not expect them to ask me to surrender so much data. I e-file every year, so I have to give another partner of theirs some data in order to process my return. Mobile number, driver’s license number. It’s not like they can’t get that info if they really want it. But this process takes it to a whole new level.

The IRS will probably require this anal exam to e-file next year. Looks like I’m going back to paper returns.


12 posted on 06/27/2021 6:31:03 PM PDT by GenXFreedomFighter (We are so screwed.)
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

Today, even if you fly low you can’t avoid the radar. Take the money and hold some for taxes next April.


13 posted on 06/27/2021 6:31:42 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: Spirit of Liberty

“Looks legit but not sure of the point of opting out; sounds like if you do you’ll claim the credit when you file your taxes.”
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The point would be to continue getting the credit when filing taxes at the end of the year instead of getting it spread out over monthly installments in advance.


14 posted on 06/27/2021 6:32:00 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: kalee

for later


15 posted on 06/27/2021 6:34:33 PM PDT by kalee
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To: outofsalt
Take the money and hold some for taxes next April.

Looks like that's the choice I'm left with. I am not giving facial recognition data and my voiceprint voluntarily. No effin way.

16 posted on 06/27/2021 6:37:31 PM PDT by GenXFreedomFighter (We are so screwed.)
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

Thank you for explaining. You’re correct. I don’t have any kids, so I don’t deal with such choices.
Good luck.


17 posted on 06/27/2021 6:42:20 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

Should be legit. The company is private and located in Virginia, right next door to CIA headquarters. /s


18 posted on 06/27/2021 6:42:25 PM PDT by DesertRhino (A coup government may not claim the protection of the same constitution it overthrew. )
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

Whenever people ask for your personal information...hang up.

Had to do that this morning. Some guy called me and asked if I had made transactions totalling $1500 on my credit card.

I said no. Then he asked for my checking account information. I said, can’t give it to you. Then I hung up.

I learned this the hard way, having fallen prey to scammers before.


19 posted on 06/27/2021 6:43:14 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Fear is a reaction; courage is a decision. Winston Churchill )
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To: steve86

lol!


20 posted on 06/27/2021 6:43:32 PM PDT by lee martell
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