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This Windows 11 Change Could Benefit Linux
Omg Ubuntu ^ | June 18, 2021 | Joey Sneddon

Posted on 06/25/2021 3:46:00 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

Microsoft took the shrink wrap off Windows 11 today, debuting a refreshed interface, support for Android apps, and deep integration of Microsoft Teams. But beneath all of the GUI goodies and swish superficial changes are a stricter set of system requirements.

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It is only possible to install Windows 11 on hardware that is UEFI, Secure Boot, and TPM 2.0 — and its the 2.0 that’s important — enabled. This killer combo of hardware requirements excludes swathes of computers made more than 5 or 6 years ago, including some of Microsoft’s own.

(Excerpt) Read more at omgubuntu.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: bigtech; linux; windows; windows11; windowspinglist
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I think that a large portion of this article thinking is pie-in-the-sky. Even among those who are boycott minded(which are less common than they should be) and looking for a way to get at Big Tech, the impact for Linux will be small. Windows is not really in danger here. It's still an interesting discussion though.

However, for those who are interested in not being forced to upgrade except on their own terms, I know I'm not the only one around here who would be willing to help offer support and guidance to get off of Big Tech once and for all.

1 posted on 06/25/2021 3:46:00 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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To: dayglored; ShadowAce

Ping to possible interest


2 posted on 06/25/2021 3:47:17 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Going the Apple path of 5-6 year obsolescence.


3 posted on 06/25/2021 3:48:46 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

My understanding is that Microsoft is looking at it from the perspective of trying to meld linux and windows, because there is money to be made by selling Office to linux users.

But you are right that linux users will not convert to Window users. The cultures are too different.


4 posted on 06/25/2021 3:52:01 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Just because I coughed on you does not mean that I have covid. It means that we have covid. )
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To: ProgressingAmerica
excludes swathes of computers made more than 5 or 6 years ago,

Looks like no forced upgrade from Microsoft with this one - at least for my 10 year old Win7 machine. I don't even know how to test for what TPM, if any, that I have.

5 posted on 06/25/2021 3:52:20 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: ProgressingAmerica

People are working on it already Create a Windows 11 bootable USB. Making a copy of appraiserres.dll from the ‘sources’ folder of Windows 10 ISO, and pasting it to ‘sources’ folder of Windows 11 ISO. This solution is for clean installation. LOL


6 posted on 06/25/2021 3:53:27 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Jonty30

I was thinking the opposite way. Even being cut off, Windows users won’t convert to Linux. They’ll either buy a new computer, stay on an old version of Windows for years and years and keep re-installing it, or some other such.

There are work-arounds starting to be discovered, and even though Linux is much easier to install than any of the workarounds, the workarounds are what most people will choose.

I wish it were the reverse, this would be an easy way to hit Big Tech, but that’s what it is.


7 posted on 06/25/2021 3:58:22 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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To: PAR35

The Microsoft site has a link that tests your PC to see if it’s able to run Windows 11. (Sorry, don’t have the link handy)


8 posted on 06/25/2021 3:59:02 PM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

One of my great pet peeves - years ago, the idea was that the great thing about software and a general purpose computer - all you had to do was change code, and not have to change the hardware.

Now, every software release requires new hardware.

Racket.


9 posted on 06/25/2021 4:00:09 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Are you forced to upgrade?


10 posted on 06/25/2021 4:02:38 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Might get more personal, home Linux users but the bulk of computers are business and run business software that has evolved over many years strictly for windows with no Linux equivalent. Businesses will just buy new machines and big corporations lease their machines anyway. Almost all of my PCs are off lease Thinkpads which also tend to have high compatibility with Linux. IBM/Lenovo have always had a few models available with Linux installed and supported.


11 posted on 06/25/2021 4:05:12 PM PDT by Pollard
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To: fruser1

Yeah, this is one of the reasons I stopped using Windows years ago. My current hardware is around 7 years old and I’ll have it for at least another 5.

With the software upgrades I do from time to time I see performance increases. It kind of makes me sad for people who stick to Windows or Apple.


12 posted on 06/25/2021 4:06:44 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (Public meetings are superior to newspapers)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Most people I know have given up on PCs and use their cell phone for everything. Not me though. Windows 7 still works.


13 posted on 06/25/2021 4:11:48 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: Jonty30
there is money to be made by selling Office to linux users

I can open, edit, create new and save any Office file with Libre Office. There's also OpenOffice that will do the same as will Calligra apps. MS isn't going to sell Office to linux users, especially considering MS Office has gone to the SAAS model with Office 365 being web based. If a Linux user wanted to use 365, they could have been for a few years now. Adobe as gone SAAS web versions as well. All you need is a browser. OS independent.

14 posted on 06/25/2021 4:13:08 PM PDT by Pollard
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Of my 5 or so computers 4 are dual boot Windows/Linux.
I only use Windows for very specific Proprietary applications.
Linux is my go-to OS.
I won’t even touch Mac OS.


15 posted on 06/25/2021 4:15:43 PM PDT by rellic
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To: ProgressingAmerica

ran PCHealth Check
tells me “Th processor isn’t supported for Windows 11”

except...the processor is listed by MS as a supported processor.


16 posted on 06/25/2021 4:16:31 PM PDT by stylin19a (I have kleptomania, but when it gets real bad, I take something for it.)
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ran PCHealth Check tells me “Th processor isn’t supported for Windows 11” except...the processor is listed by MS as a supported processor.

You did better than me. Ran it on my big workstation and laptop (both failed), but it DIDN'T SAY WHAT FAILED!

Probably TPM (only 1.2 or something), but it wouldn't give me details. I sent MS a message about it. Probably goes in the bit bucket.
17 posted on 06/25/2021 4:26:34 PM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: ProgressingAmerica

I will wait till Windows 12 arrives and fixes everything from the past versions...


18 posted on 06/25/2021 4:28:56 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (I need more money. )
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To: aimhigh
The Microsoft site has a link that tests your PC to see if it’s able to run Windows 11.

I suppose. If one trusts MS enough to download the software onto their computer.

19 posted on 06/25/2021 4:29:43 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: BikerJoe

I checked and I have TMP 2.0 and Bitloker Turned off.

Got the info on how to check from here:

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/37060-turn-off-bitlocker-operating-system-drive-windows-10-a.html

looks like the processor has to be 64-bit.

you can check here:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/windows-processor-requirements

scroll down, find your version of Windows 10 and click on your processor

happy hunting


20 posted on 06/25/2021 4:33:00 PM PDT by stylin19a (I have kleptomania, but when it gets real bad, I take something for it.)
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