Posted on 06/24/2021 11:28:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
how many of those who got sick were actually vaccinated and fully vaccinated? Were there many deaths among those vaccinated?
I’m not convinced we’ll ever get an honest answer, or breakdown, to that, from any MSM or vax producer sponsored “study”.
Are you?
Just a few weeks ago the number claimed was 65% of infected were vaccinated, but somehow, like magic, none are being infected now.
FRAUDci/BigPharma Magic™
wonder if the invaders that biden is spreading across our country are included in these statistics...
“Tucker has an outlook now that whenever something seems so crazy it can’t be true,..”
Tucker Carlson is feigning rhetorical confusion to make a point. He does it all the time. It is a common debate technique. Tucker might ask the following rhetorical “questions” with a fake puzzled look on his face:
“How can two Ivy League trained Phd experts come to the exact opposite conclusions? They can’t both be right! I’m SO confused!”
“If guns cause violence as the Left insists, then why are rural areas, where everyone has guns, completely devoid of gun violence? I’m SO confused!”
But Tucker is not really confused or puzzled at all. That’s rhetoric. It’s an act. In the first case, he knows exactly why experts can disagree. His real point is that you can’t blindly trust experts just because of their credentials - for one thing, they may well be paid liars.
You need to rely on your rational thought, critical thinking and have a good BS detecter.
In the second hypothetical, Tucker knows exactly why there is no gun violence in rural areas where everyone and his brother own firearms: it is because the premise is a lie - guns don’t cause gun violence - criminals do. Again you need to use your brain - question the premise.
So no - Tucker is not really suggesting we all dismiss logic and common sense, and listen to crazy Q theories.
And I’m not really confused about who is right about vaccines. Logic tells me that it is insane to let Big Pharma use me as a lab rat - and any expert that says otherwise is a paid liar.
In my experience, crazy Q theories have not turned out to be right in the end. The Q people just pick a later date for when their prophecy will come true.
My BS detecter still works just fine.
I read through the comments and see one primary error by many commenters. They confuse cases of Covid with deaths from Covid. The data seems to be analyzing deaths. Is it possible that people who have been vaccinated and contract Covid have a significantly better survival rate than those who have not? This data seems to support that.
I didn’t say anything about Q
Tucker thinks qanon is ridiculous as well
Way more than two doctors have claimed the opposite of “trust the science” bureaucratic experts like Fauxi.
The CDC data indicates the exact opposite - deaths/infections are PRIMARILY among the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated.
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UK has a similar data set showing a death rate of 0.10% for unvaccinated and 0.64% for vaccinated. Vaccinated have an increased risk of death from Delta because they are vaccinated.
Chart:
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?get_gallerynr=10884
Article:
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242765&page=1
And I’m not really confused about who is right about vaccines. Logic tells me that it is insane to let Big Pharma use me as a lab rat - and any expert that says otherwise is a paid liar.
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So no - Tucker is not really suggesting we all dismiss logic and common sense, and listen to crazy Q theories.
Not sure how/why you wrapped Q into your post.
You were doing great up until that.
Almost like an uncontrollable tic.
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“I didn’t say anything about Q”
Sorry. I guess I jumped the shark.
A lot of Q pushers on FR don’t mention Q explicitly - I mistook you for one.. again - sorry.
“Way more than two doctors have claimed the opposite of “trust the science” bureaucratic experts like Fauxi.”
The “science” that Fauxi wants us to trust is not real science at all (as I’m sure you know).
Trusting actual science is still the smart play.
For example, we should have trusted the science that told us all along that (even using the exaggerated government death statistics) our chances of dying of Covid19 are slim to nil.
Yeah. My bad. I already apologized for it.
In my defense, a lot of Q’ers on FR lately have been avoiding explicit mention of Q, but they advocate relying on “crazy sounding theories that turn out to be right” instead of common sense.
That’s what this poster was advocating, so I assumed (wrongly) that he was a Q’er flying below the radar.
From your linked article....long, but well worth the read....
Oh Stop The Stupid!
The screamfest on “variants!” when it comes to Covid, especially Delta, is outrageous.
Again I remind you of the history of pandemics. Every one has had two peaks of cases, more or less, the second is frequently more-severe, and then it fades out. There has never been one that keeps coming back year after year, month after month to produce new peaks and new scares.
H1N1, which was responsible for 1918, did this. In 2009 the world was going to end according to the screamers as it was back. Did the world end? Nope. Why not, given that basically zero people alive in 1918 were alive in 2009, and thus nobody had durable immunity to it as nobody alive had been infected in 1918.
The virus mutated, as all do; it became more transmissible and less virulent. 2009 came and went and few people died. Yes, some people got a nasty flu. So what?
There have been myriad respiratory pandemics over the ages. OC43 is believed responsible for one that occurred in the 1890s. Today OC43 typically causes colds, but occasionally it does kill people, especially elderly and infirm individuals. So what?
How many people who originally got OC43 in the 1890s are alive today? Zero. Therefore the virus mutated; it is not immunity, either by infection or vaccination, that changed outcomes. It’s the virus that changed.
When Covid showed up I pointed this out; the only sane path was to find and use repurposed drugs because there was no possible way to vaccinate out of it. Even taking severe risk with untested vaccines if we did not get screwed it wouldn’t matter; we’d be too late and the virus would do what viruses do. Immediate treatment on suspected infection was the only path forward that could work. Masks and shutting down the economy were pointless; we tried that in 1918 and it failed. We now know why it failed; physics tells us that aerosols simply cannot be stopped with other than near-perfect adherence to procedure which nobody will do in the real world.
We now have a very large data set for the “Delta” variant out of Britain’s NHS. This is a data table from their publication.
These are confirmed — by sequencing — infections. They are not flawed PCR false-positives; to get these you had to sequence the virus, so we know these people had it. The original CFR for the only variant that was “successful” (that is, it managed to spread and “win” in the population) was 1.9%.
Delta has a CFR of 0.1%, or approximately 19 times less lethal, and it is now the predominant strain.
0.1% is approximately identical to the CFR for confirmed, sequenced seasonal influenza.
Fauci is still lying despite having these facts:
“The transmissibility is unquestionably greater” in the Delta variant than the original variant of COVID-19, Fauci said, adding that “it is associated with an increased disease severity.”
No it’s not you lying piece of ****. For this line of bull**** you deserve prison, after your bones finish serving the just sentence for 300,000 manslaughters in the US alone.
When does this SOB get indicted for lying to Congress? Oh, and while I can’t vouch for this, if its true there are plenty of people who need to join that ******* in prison, preferably with a bunch of very violent felons who had their loved ones die from Covid.
The facts from the NHS is that Delta is more-transmissible but causes a fatality 1/10th to 1/20th as often in unvaccinated people as the original “Alpha” strain.
You shouldn’t believe me and you certainly should not believe that lying snake Fauci. Instead look at the data table right up above. I didn’t come up with this it is directly from Britain’s NHS. There is utterly no reason to be afraid of the Delta “variant” unless you are scared of the sniffles.
Let me be clear: Covid-19 has now mutated to be the flu.
We didn’t make it the flu, nature did.
Nature did with this virus what it has done with every pandemic virus; it has selected for more-transmissible and less-virulent strains. This is natural selection; a virus “wins” by infecting more people and those who get violently ill are shunned, which makes it less-likely to be passed to the next person.
This all happened before the first shot was effective in Tennessee.
The peak was prior to vaccination; the second wave of the nasty, original strain burned itself out before anyone got jabbed. Further, we could have stopped most of the second wave death with cheap, repurposed and existing drugs.
We instead attempted to rely on masks and distancing which objectively failed to do a damn thing.
Now there is evidence — although the strength of it is not yet clear — that we may be seeing ADE in those who took the jab and get infected with Delta. If you look at the fatality rates for those infected with Delta in the NHS data table who are not fully vaccinated but have a “breakthrough” infection they are very low; right around 0.08%, or statistically identical to those who were never vaccinated at 0.1%. In other words during the immunity build period you may get infected as you’re not yet protected but among those who do the outcome is statistically identical to those who never took the shot.
But for those who have breakthroughs more than 2 weeks after the second dose the fatality rate is six times higher.
You cannot argue that the lack of demographics on those who are not and who are vaccinated is responsible for this since the data for the vaccination-in-process group is presumably identical to the fully-vaccinated group; those who choose not to take the vaccine are not in this comparison!
This is quite-strong data that pathogenic priming is occurring with these vaccines and if you have a breakthrough infection after taking the jabs you are more likely — BY A FACTOR OF SIX — to get hammered.
This is very likely to show up here in the United States, and when it does it won’t be able to be hidden. Yes, the vaccines appear to provide a decent amount of protection but among those who do get hit anyway the evidence is that Delta, which typically produces nothing worse than the flu, is potentiated by having taken the vaccines.
That’s exactly what I warned might happen and indeed what all previous attempts to vaccinate against coronaviruses, when tested in animals, has produced. Exactly how bad this will get cannot be determined but the safety signal is there and you cannot un-take the shot.
Never mind the wildly-elevated adverse event rate compared with every other vaccine combined. VAERS is wildly-underreporting but even so the data is frightening. I remind you that when the Swine Flu was coming around they stopped the shots when about 50 associated (not proved) deaths were reported; at least count VAERS has over 4,600 deaths associated with these shots or close to 100 times more and yet the insanity and pressure campaign continues.
Covid-19 was never going to survive as a “nasty” bug for more than a year. No pandemic respiratory virus ever has in the past and there was zero evidence suggesting or proving that this one would break the pattern. We now know it did not; Delta is the natural evolution of the virus and and it is 10-20x less virulent than the original in the absence of vaccination. In short Covid-19 is now a cold or flu just like every other respiratory pandemic through history.
But for those who took (or, in the future, take) the shots the evidence is that if you get a breakthrough infection you’re more likely to be harmed than if you did nothing as contrary to the assertions of some we do have the control cohort of expected equal morbidity and age in the group that has had the breakthrough happen before their vaccinations are fully effective. Those people also get the flu; it is only after fully-effective vaccination that you get the ADE response.
The people who advanced, coerced, cajoled and continue to push this bull**** must be held accountable not only for their intentional refusal to use early treatment last fall and into the winter but now for what, by the data, has turned into potentiating the infection among those who are jabbed exactly as occurred with all previous trials of vaccines against coronaviruses.
Stay focused!
FRAUDci/DS are the enemy.
I know who the enemy is.
But all this Q foolishness has given the DS a target rich environment for setting up their false flag operations.
There is nothing wrong with pointing that out.
Good write up. Essentially, had we done nothing at all, outside letting doctors prescribe proven decades old safe treatments, this “pandemic” would already be over. Lockdowns ect only serve to prolong a virus in the human population.
Covid never rose to a level of needing a rushed traditional vaccine let alone a experimental one.
“This is complete horse shit. This would mean that man-made vaccinations (the ones making the Big Pharma $ billions) are nearly 100% effective, while natural immunity (for which Big Pharma gets nothing) is nearly 0% effective.
How big a fool would you have to be to buy that?
Meanwhile, a recent Israeli study showed that about 50% of new cases are among people who were fully vaccinated. Meaning the so-called “vaccinations” do exactly nothing.“
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Hear hear!
“But, but, but...deaths have risen from 2 to 4. That’s a 100% increase!!! /AP science”
Exactly.
That is also literally what they did with Asian hate crimes also.
Its just the flu, bro.
This is why the vaxxers get so spastic.
Thank you for his informative article, it is comforting to know that there are still some straight thinking people around using common sense.
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