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What We Can Learn from Studying UFOs (Avi Loeb, former chair of the Harvard astronomy department)
Scientific American ^ | Avi Loeb

Posted on 06/24/2021 6:44:36 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

A report to Congress from the Pentagon and various intelligence agencies about sightings of unidentified flying objects (UFOs) by military personnel is scheduled to be made public shortly. The report reportedly concludes that some of the UFOs are likely real objects whose nature cannot be assessed with any confidence.

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The possibility that the Pentagon UFOs are human-made can potentially be excluded by identifying behavior that cannot be reproduced by our most advanced equipment. We know our technological limits because any advance that goes well beyond them would have introduced major commercial or military benefits and would have been represented in the consumer market or on the battlefield.

Nevertheless, most people might choose to ignore the Pentagon report and maintain an attitude of business as usual. My daughter told me explicitly that she will not miss her routine soccer match on the day that the report is made public, irrespective of its content. At a recent forum about my popular-level book Extraterrestrial and new textbook Life in the Cosmos, I was asked how long humans could ignore extraterrestrial intelligent life. I replied: “Humans may choose to remain ignorant forever. They can refuse to recognize a reality that does not flatter their ego, like the simple idea that we are not the smartest species that in the Milky Way.”

But reality does not care whether we ignore it or not.

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The Pentagon has access to much more data than it releases to the public. Its report is expected to say that the reality of some UFOs is beyond doubt but that their nature requires further study. It is therefore an opportune time for the scientific community to take a closer look at UFOs by collecting and analyzing new data with the finest instruments and computers in a controlled setup.

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1 posted on 06/24/2021 6:44:36 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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I have heard several folks say this week that Avi Loeb has let it be known that he would like to spearhead a scientific community investigation of the UFO matter.


2 posted on 06/24/2021 6:46:49 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
Wouldnt it be great if we could all have jobs where we are guaranteed perpetual employment, get to "investigate" forever, speculate unproven 'theories' on someone else's dime, and never have to actually prove anything or provide a needed service?


4 posted on 06/24/2021 6:52:43 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: RoosterRedux

Goodness they will toss anything in to keep the public occupied while they try to hide their “screwups.”

wy69


5 posted on 06/24/2021 6:53:45 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: RoosterRedux

There are no UFOs. There are no aliens. There isn’t anything to study. Were there aliens with inter stellar technology, we would know. Just sayin.


6 posted on 06/24/2021 6:53:53 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: RoosterRedux
...is scheduled to be made public shortly.

Is John Durham in charge of this one too?
7 posted on 06/24/2021 6:54:27 AM PDT by larrytown (No matter how much the cats fight there always seems to be plenty of kittens. - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Phlap

Part of the purpose of the UFOs is to debunk human science.

Using science to study them is like using fish to study bicycles.


8 posted on 06/24/2021 7:25:12 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I am not sure if there is anything like a collective consciousness or not, although some experiments certainly suggest that there is. In any event, it is certain that we do not understand exactly what consciousness is, much less exactly how it works. If we accept that aliens exist, and particularly if they introduce themselves to us, we and they establish a relationship in which each is a part of the other’s world, or put another way, we will share a degree of consciousness. I am not sure that would be good for us or them, and it may be why we will never see a “Take me to your leader” event.


9 posted on 06/24/2021 7:30:36 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: cgbg

I suspect that if there are alien craft here - piloted or autonomous drones - they couldn’t care less about human kind. If they were interested, they would have made their presence known long ago.

From what we can tell from our limited understanding of celestial bodies, liquid water is reasonably rare. A planet that surface is covered by 70% liquid water may be exceedingly rare. If they’re here, that’s probably what they’re interested in.


10 posted on 06/24/2021 7:34:35 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: PUGACHEV
A lot of the discussion re: UFO's from the DOD's perspective seems to have centered around the issue of "consciousness."

Lue Elizondo has spent a good amount of time alluding to consciousness when questions like "what are we dealing with here?" are raised.

Not sure where he is going with that, but it is interesting as hell.

11 posted on 06/24/2021 7:34:54 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: whitney69

The scientist is alleging conspiracy (to cover Aliens up for decades).


12 posted on 06/24/2021 7:38:28 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: Phlap

If there ARE aliens then “man-made global warming” is the least of our worries.


13 posted on 06/24/2021 7:39:04 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: ScubaDiver

The problem is not there there is no evidence of alien contact—there are thousands of people who claim they have seen, been abducted by, spoken to by aliens.

Science calls their testimony “anecdotal” and therefore ignores it.

Is the problem with the witnesses or is the problem science and what it allows as “evidence”.


14 posted on 06/24/2021 7:39:57 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: PUGACHEV

Which leader would they or should they recognize?

United Nations?
China?
US?
Individual states?
Pentagaon?
England?
Chile?

Whomever they partner with partner with would shift the rest of the world.


15 posted on 06/24/2021 7:41:18 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: a fool in paradise

Human leaders are stupid and corrupt.

Aliens would have to be totally brain dead if they could not figure that out...


16 posted on 06/24/2021 7:45:32 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: RoosterRedux

But, all those movies in the 50’s and 60’s said aliens were bad. Then they made the movie ALIEN.

Movies are more influential than science, ask any moviegoer.


17 posted on 06/24/2021 7:47:46 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

The Day The Earth Stood Still went a different way.

So did the pulps, comics, and novels.


18 posted on 06/24/2021 7:58:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: a fool in paradise
If there ARE aliens then “man-made global warming” is the least of our worries.

It is amazing that any article would appear in (un-)Scientific American that doesn't allude to it. Their obsession with pushing what isn't even a proper theory, just an unproven hypothesis, lost me as a former subscriber. Same with National Geographic and so much other respectable media taken over by Leftist ideologues.

19 posted on 06/24/2021 8:03:45 AM PDT by katana
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National Geographic resorted to repeatedly running photoshopped fakes.

There is no scientific purpose served, at least one was an editorial decision.


20 posted on 06/24/2021 8:09:08 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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