He’s a smart guy, and I also think maybe he has a little disdain for Malone for being the inventor of the mRNA, establishment bio-research guy. I think kirsch considers him to be “part of the problem”. Possibly messing with things they shouldn’t be.
Doesn’t mean flashing jerkiness is effective—as he clearly belatedly realized.
And yeah, it is interesting how limited a hangout some of these pharma/research Establishment guys dare to venture.