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Report of Replication of Frank Gordon’s Lattice Energy Converter (Stevenson)
LENR Forum ^ | June 15 2021 | Stevenson

Posted on 06/20/2021 10:28:26 AM PDT by Kevmo

https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6508-frank-gordon-s-lattice-energy-converter-lec-replicators-workshop/?postID=158361#post158361

Jun 14th 2021 New #193 As anticipated, I will report here details of the my replication of a working LEC device. Construction of the device and preliminary tests can be found in my previous posts. The device used here (brass-brass) is exaclty the same tested before as control (Fig. 1).

- Electroplating/Co-deposition process

The working electrode (WE) was gently rubbed with fine sandpaper and cleaned with alcohol, then it was placed in the electrolytic cell.

The cell was realised with a normal test tube, with four 1 mm iron wires sourrounding the WE. The iron wires were connected to positive voltage while the WE was connected to negative (ground). The electrolyte was 1/4 HCl 20%, 3/4 tap water. The current was set by finely (manually) regulating the power supply voltage. The cell is shown in Fig 2 (note that the colour of leads is inverted, please not consider it).

The current was set and maintained as follows, trying to follow Frank Gordon's indications:

8:00 - 8:35: 0.7 mA [80 uA/cm^2] (0.167 V)

8:35 - 9:05: 1.7 mA [190 uA/cm^2] (0.254 V)

9:05 - 12:00: 16 mA [1.8 mA/cm^2] (0.375 V)

12:00 - 16:00: 25 mA [2.8 mA/cm^2] (0.450 V)

Temperature was 26.4°C, 45%RH at the beginning, 26.6°C, 51%RH at the end.

At 15:30 the electrode appeared as shown in Fig.3 (it became black quite abruptly).

- Preliminary test

The plating process was ended at 16:00, the power supply dusconnected and the WE was extracted, rinsed with tap water and dryed accurately with soft paper towel. The plating appeared quite uniform, well attached to the brass substrate and with a fine porosity. The thickness was not measurable (probably less than 10um). An unexpected phenomenon noted while taking out the WE from the cell was that it, as well as the iron wires, were magnetised. This is not easy to explain considering the very low currents involved and the opposite current path, that should almost cancel out the generated magnetic field.

The WE was inserted into the brass counter electrode (CE) in air at atmospheric pressure. No hydrogen was added. The voltage was measured with a multimeter with 10 MOhm input impedance.

The initial reading was close to 0 mV, then in tens of seconds, it started rising and stabilizing around 242 mV. This was a clear indication that a voltage was generated by the device (the noise level was around 1 mV). This immediately triggered other tests and experiments, that were carried out in another lab. The device was closed but not permanently sealed, in order to allow further experiments. These were done as fast as possible, in order to avoid the the oxidation of the Fe plating and hydrogen desorption.

- Voltage measurements

The first test was to accurately measure the open circut voltage and short circuit current of the device, using the brass CE as well as the aluminium and copper one. The positive probe of the multimeter (10 MOhm impedance) was connected to the WE, the negative to the CE. Signs of voltages and currents reflects this choice. The voltage of device with the brass CE was -307 mV, the short circuit current was -2.4 uA. The voltage of the aluminium CE was 223 mV, and the current 1.5 uA. The voltage of the copper CE was -234 mV with a -0.69 uA short circuit current. The voltage of the brass CE device increased slowly overt time, so probably also with the other two metals higher figures would be obtained by extending the measurement time. During this experiment the peak voltage with brass CE was about 330 mV, as shown in Fig.4.

Another test was done by loading the device (only brass CE from now on) with various resistors. The result is shown in the attached Voltage plot. The behaviour is exaclty the one reported by Frank Gordon at ICCF-23, showing an internal resistance in the order of 100 Kohm.

- Current measurements

The capability of the active device of conducting current was tested, as previously done with the control device, by applying an external voltage. The result is shown in the Current plot. The device was able to conduct a significative amount of current, so the voltage range was limited to -+10V, in order to avoid to damage the device (e.g. desorb the hydrogen). Maximum current at 10V was about 136/140 uA, compared to less than 10 pA measured on the control device: the active device is 7 order of magnitude more conductive. It can be noted from the plot that the current tend to saturation with higher voltage, this however was not explored during this experiments.

- Additional experiments

In order to verify the capability of the device to generate useful power/energy, the LEC was connected to a 100uF capacitor, and the charging process was monitored. The result is visibie in the Capacitor_GM plot. The capacitor was fully charged in about 90 seconds, it was disconnected and separately measured. The stored voltage was 309 mV, so the stored energy was 4.7 uJ. The time constant of the charging curve was 15 s, this is equal to the RC product of the circuit, so the internal R of the LEC is about 150 kOhm. This is in good agreement with the load plot.

Another test was done on the naked WE (in air), with a Geiger-Muller counter (LND712, alpha sensitive), in order to detect potential radiation. The counts for background, for sample and for sample + plastic sheld are reported in the plot: no significative evidence of radiation were found.

Lastly, the naked CE was left in air and in the darkness for about 1 hour, in contact with a glow-in-the-dark plastic strip (based on ZnS(Ag)) and some fluorescent substances. No fluorescence or phosphorescence was visibly excited in the materials.

- Final considerations

All the tests made were limited by the short time available before signs of oxidation (rusting) appeared on the Fe WE plating layer. Probably this effect can be reduced if the WE is sealed with hydrogen inside the CE. The day after the experiment, the condition of the WE was that shown in Fig.5, where visible oxidation can be noted. In this condition the LEC performance decreases (voltage is 50 mV or less). This problem probably is not presenti in case of Ni or Pd plating.

- Conclusions

A working LEC device was replicated successfully. The entire process was not difficult or critical in any way. The capability of the LEC of conducting a current should only be explained by the emission or generation of ions by the WE. The kind of emission of the WE remains unknown and require further investigation. Some magnetic anomalies were noted during the production and test of the LEC, that also need to be better investigated.

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Report of Replication of Frank Gordon’s Lattice Energy Converter (Stevenson) Posted on June 18, 2021 • 15 Comments

I want to report something that may be of interest for most readers: I successfully replicated Frank Gordon’s LEC device (BTW, also J.P Biberian and others did, before me).

Some time ago this topic was discussed: this device is capable of generating a voltage and a current in an unknown way. Apart from the voltage (that may be due to “conventional” electrochemical potentials), the most striking and interesting thing is that its gas is ionised by an unknown phenomenon, possibly related to LENR. If it is LENR, it would be very important, because the device is very easy to replicate.

You can find details on the replication on lenr-forum, here:

https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6508-frank-gordon-s-lattice-energy-converter-lec-replicators-workshop/?postID=158361#post158361

Check also out these posts to get full context:

https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6508-frank-gordon-s-lattice-energy-converter-lec-replicators-workshop/?postID=157283#post157283

https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6508-frank-gordon-s-lattice-energy-converter-lec-replicators-workshop/?postID=157333#post157333

https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6508-frank-gordon-s-lattice-energy-converter-lec-replicators-workshop/?postID=157701#post157701


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: alchemy; bafflewithbs; cmns; coldfusion; hopium; lec; lenr; unobtainium
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Axil Axil --> Stevenson • 19 hours ago Regarding: "active device is capable of carrying a current: this is a clear indication that the gas has been ionised."

Ionization is not necessarily the root cause of the development of conductivity. It could be that superconductivity is starting to develop on the surface of the electrode. This occurs when the LENR reaction is taking hold as packets of polariton Bose condensates begin to form in optical cavities on the surface of the metal.

• Reply • Share › Avatar Stevenson --> Axil Axil • 13 hours ago You have two electrodes separated by a gas (air in this case): even if the electrodes became superconductive, this would not help in making the gas conductive too.

• Reply • Share › Avatar Axil Axil --> Stevenson • 20 hours ago • edited Does the behavior of the device change with the application of intense light? If so, is the change in behavior responsive to the color of the light.

Did you test for results in total darkness?

Ultra violet or infrared light might also stimulate a change in the behavior of the device.

Also check for an increase in the conductivity of the electrode in the presence of intense light. This might indicate that superconductivity is beginning to occur

If the device is sensitive to light to any degree, the device is photoactive.

• Reply • Share › Avatar Stevenson --> Axil Axil • 13 hours ago The device is essentially enclosed in a metal tube: light cannot reach the inside of the device.

• Reply • Share › − Avatar Axil Axil --> Axil Axil • 20 hours ago • edited The thinking behind this testing suggestion is as follows.

The surface of the prepared metal electrode may have a nanoplasmonic effect where nanocavities are produced by erosion on the surface of the metal. The production of polaritons in these optical cavities might be occurring. A condensate of polaritons might be occurring. This is the first step in the LENR reaction, IMHO.

This method of surface preparation is similar to the effects that were produce by Piantelli. Piantilli used brass bars that underwent surface preparation. Also Mizuno used pitting on the surface of metal to carry his reaction. In Francesco Celani system, the use of constantine wire treated with acid to produce optical cavities also produces the LENR reaction. If memory serves, Celani reported a sharp increase in electrical conductivity when the LENR reaction began in this system.

I looked Celani's results up as follows:

https://www.researchgate.ne...

Finally, we detected a new anomalous electric effect, comprising of the generation of a spontaneous voltage between the ends of a floating wire in the reactor, enhanced and stabilized by Fe presence. Lastly, we added some speculations/similarities regarding Rydberg matter, as developed by Leif Holmlid (Univ. Goteborg-SE) and Collaborators, based on some of our results. Also Holmlid's process is activated by UV and laser light. Light stimulation seems to form strange radiation which are EVOs. This effect might be caused by the formation of polariton Bose condensates in optical cavities.

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1 posted on 06/20/2021 10:28:26 AM PDT by Kevmo
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To: All; y'all

details on the replication on lenr-forum, here:
https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6508-frank-gordon-s-lattice-energy-converter-lec-replicators-workshop/?postID=158361#post158361

http://disq.us/p/2hqi8sq

https://disq.us/url?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F347706575_Stimulation_of_LENR-AHE_by_high_power_electric_pulses_on_coiled_coaxial_Constantan_wires_at_high_voltage_and_temperature%3AD5xKmhOz0MlIYn1EPtNibJiaq8g&cuid=2168707

Check also out these posts to get full context:

https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6508-frank-gordon-s-lattice-energy-converter-lec-replicators-workshop/?postID=157283#post157283

https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6508-frank-gordon-s-lattice-energy-converter-lec-replicators-workshop/?postID=157333#post157333

https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/6508-frank-gordon-s-lattice-energy-converter-lec-replicators-workshop/?postID=157701#post157701


2 posted on 06/20/2021 10:33:41 AM PDT by Kevmo (some things may be true even if Donald Trump said them. ~Jonathan Karl)
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3 posted on 06/20/2021 10:34:33 AM PDT by Kevmo (some things may be true even if Donald Trump said them. ~Jonathan Karl)
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Report of Replication of Frank Gordon’s Lattice Energy Converter (Stevenson) Posted on June 18, 2021 • 15 Comments
4 posted on 06/20/2021 10:37:48 AM PDT by Kevmo (some things may be true even if Donald Trump said them. ~Jonathan Karl)
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What ever happened to that cold energy fission device that was going into production several years ago? I don’t put stock in any of this anymore. I will believe it when I see it.


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Looks like they are trying to distance themselves from the “cold fusion” scams. Maybe even some real science going on rather than just hype.


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