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Air conditioning unnecessary in majority of global heatwave conditions
MedicalXPress / University of Sydney / The Lancet “Planetary Health” ^ | June 14, 2021 | Nathan B Morris et al

Posted on 06/14/2021 11:02:53 AM PDT by ConservativeMind

The biophysical modeling study, published in The Lancet Planetary Health, challenges outdated public health guidance that discourages fan use in temperatures higher than 35 degrees Celsius / 95 degrees Fahrenheit.

Based on human studies carried out at the University of Sydney's Thermal Ergonomics Laboratory, the researchers developed a model to determine the humidity-dependent temperature thresholds at which fans could become detrimental, providing conditions that exacerbate heat stress.

"The effectiveness of a fan depends on temperature and relative humidity and our previous human studies have shown that it is only when the air temperature is very high and humidity is extremely low that fans can be detrimental," said senior author Professor Ollie Jay…

Specifically, they propose that the simplified fan use temperature threshold of 35°C currently recommended by the WHO should be increased to 39°C for young healthy adults, 38°C for healthy adults older than 65 years, and 37°C for older adults taking anticholinergic medication.

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To: Pollard
Actually in the dry SW, swamp coolers are useful. They add moisture/humidity.

They work great until you hit the mid-to-high nineties in monsoon season. Then they don't. They work the least in the time you want it most. The higher humidity (granted nothing like the anything outside the SW) we get in the Albuquerque area during monsoon makes swamps pretty much useless except as air movers.

41 posted on 06/14/2021 12:08:59 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: slouper

All the homes in hot weather areas in the 19th century were built to stay naturally cool. Verandahs and cupolas. Now people live in 2 story boxes. No shade trees.


42 posted on 06/14/2021 12:11:59 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Joe Brower

True, although it is true that they have no A/C/ in most buildings in Europe. Remember when all thos people died in a heat wave some years back? I rented 3 houses in German and none of them had A/C.


43 posted on 06/14/2021 12:12:45 PM PDT by gr8eman (I keep telling these idiots I see, that they know even less than the idiots on TV)
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To: ConservativeMind

Not trying to reinforce the WHO on this... But, I think they are right to a point anyway about being a necessity, it is more of a comfort thing that people get used to. I live in Arizona and been in the same house for 27 years now and we have no A/C and never have, Just a swamp cooler. It works great this time of year... It was 113 yesterday and the highest it had been in the house was 79 at 5:30, then the power went out for a little while and I had to leave it on all night for the first time of the year, just to recover. Yesterday was the first day I even used the A/C in our car this year and that was only because I was so hot after the power went out in the house, I know I am crazy, but I like the heat when it is dry here, it is why I stayed here after growing up in Oregon.
All that said, 3 months of discomfort are coming soon... Monsoon season it does not work too good, temp only goes up a few degrees in here (still low 80’s), but with the swamp cooler adding moisture, you would think it must be over 100 in here. My wife has COPD and can’t hardly breath with that much humidity. I installed a window unit in our bedroom for her last summer and going to try to finally install an A/C for next year I think... We are thinking about selling and move out of the city soon anyway and having no A/C will really hurt what we can sell it for... Tough decision now that it will be paid off before we elect a new president.


44 posted on 06/14/2021 12:17:20 PM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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To: Seruzawa

Yeh Scrooge them. Whats so bad about AC other than higher electricity use? People stay more productive in AC cooled facilities. How about developing clean, efficient nuclear energy and we can use electricity with endless supply. AC one of the most greatest inventions ever.


45 posted on 06/14/2021 12:17:28 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny )
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To: madison10

Their report and recommendations were made from an office at a constant 75deg F.


46 posted on 06/14/2021 12:20:00 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Born to Conserve

I have been in Columbus MS when it was 110 and 100%.

It was nearly foggy. Visibility about 100yds.

And yes, it had a festering stench to it.


47 posted on 06/14/2021 12:22:04 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ConservativeMind
Summer heat killed nearly 1,500 in France, officials say
48 posted on 06/14/2021 12:22:06 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: ConservativeMind

And humans are dangerous and must be removed from the planet as soon as possible. A/C is just the beginning.


49 posted on 06/14/2021 12:22:21 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Any comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: ConservativeMind

The solution to excessive power demands is to convince the gullible that they don’t need it.


50 posted on 06/14/2021 12:26:07 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ConservativeMind
Excess mortality related to the August 2003 heat wave in France

And this is just from France.

Europe is gonna thin out its geezers one way or another...

51 posted on 06/14/2021 12:28:36 PM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: ConservativeMind
When air conditioners are outlawed, only outlaws will have air conditioners.


One of the reasons I put solar panels on my house is so that the gubment can't control at least that much of my power usage.

52 posted on 06/14/2021 12:29:44 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: StAnDeliver

Great catch!


53 posted on 06/14/2021 12:35:37 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas/ercot-conservation-alert-texans-asked-to-reduce-electric-use-on-monday/

ERCOT is evil. Asking TX to reduce electric usage when temps are reaching triple digits. They can’t handle a freeze and now they can’t handle normal summer heat. Our power company gave $$$ to a nearby county to be used on a new gazebo and flowers at the park instead of improving the infrastructure.

Maybe, just maybe, we have too many illegals sucking up our electricity.


54 posted on 06/14/2021 12:36:26 PM PDT by bgill
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To: gr8eman

I like to say that if A/C hadn’t been invented, my state of Florida would have maybe 5% of the population it currently does.


55 posted on 06/14/2021 12:37:32 PM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: Joe Brower

“I like to say that if A/C hadn’t been invented, my state of Florida would have maybe 5% of the population it currently does.”

Same with CA.


56 posted on 06/14/2021 12:44:07 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Pollard

Our family lived in Pune, India for two years. In the hot, dry weather just prior to the monsoon, it would regularly get to 110F in our apartment even with all the curtains drawn to keep out the sun. During the hottest part of the day we would read by pulling our chairs under the ceiling fan and pouring water on the terrazzo floors underneath us. Then we would sit with our feet in the puddles until all the water evaporated. Now maybe in a scientific sense it wasn’t cooler, but it sure felt like it! :-)


57 posted on 06/14/2021 1:08:12 PM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: ConservativeMind

They can do it since many are getting those controlled thermostats that connect to the internet. I do not have that and won’t as long as possible.


58 posted on 06/14/2021 1:16:59 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 )
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To: Macoozie

I’d be an icecap. Lol. I’m in central Florida. My AC is at 80. However in winter, my heat is also at 79/80.


59 posted on 06/14/2021 1:20:11 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 )
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To: ConservativeMind

The “Guess Who”

No Time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPX48NpSRvo


60 posted on 06/14/2021 1:23:10 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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