Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

5 Programming Languages Doomed to Extinction
DICE ^ | Nick Kowalski

Posted on 06/12/2021 9:01:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

It’s the programming equivalent of the circle of life: programming languages are created, gain popularity, hit their peak, and slowly degrade until nobody uses them anymore. With some languages, this process is fairly rapid, especially if the language in question never sees much adoption; others are decades old and still going strong.

For developers, knowing which languages will fade is a crucial issue: It’s hard to earn money off programming in a language that nobody really uses anymore. Here are five languages that won’t disappear tomorrow, but the long-term trends definitely don’t look good.

R

In the TIOBE Index, R has tumbled from 15th to 18th place over the past year. There’s a solid reason behind this: although it emerged as a strong language for data analytics (itself a burgeoning field), R has lost ground to Python, which has proven as useful for data analysis as it has for other kinds of programming work.

R faces the same situation as many highly specialized languages: a steady rise thanks to a relatively small group of loyal specialists and subject-matter experts—many of whom begin to drift away once they realize that they can use another programming language that works roughly as well. In addition, workers entering the field for the first time may choose to go with the more general-purpose language over the specialized one, figuring they can use the former for other functions, besides.

Like other, highly specialized languages, R probably won’t disappear completely. But if Python becomes data analysts’ language of choice, it could end up reduced to relatively few users.

Objective-C

In 2014, Apple launched Swift, its general-purpose language for building iOS, macOS, and watchOS apps. It was meant to work with Apple’s existing frameworks and programming infrastructure; more to the point, the company wanted its developer ecosystem to use it in place of Objective-C, which is over three decades old.

But a funny thing happened on the way to Objective-C’s predicted obsolescence: the language refused to die. Maybe that’s due to the enormous number of apps written in it, or maybe because developers who learned Objective-C aren’t quite ready to commit to learning Swift yet; maybe it’s a combination of both. Whatever the case, Objective-C has maintained a (slowly declining) presence on various popular-languages lists.

All that being said, Apple is determined to replace Objective-C with Swift. It’s going to happen. It might just take longer than the company expects.

Visual Basic

R might have tumbled quite a bit in the TIOBE Index over the past 12 months, but it has nothing on Visual Basic, which fell from 13th place to 19th over the same period. It’s also dipped in RedMonk’s long-term language rankings, although not quite as much.

In many ways, this decline isn’t surprising: Visual Basic is a really old language, having first appeared on the scene in 1991, and if there’s any truism in the technology world, it’s that older technologies are inevitably eclipsed by the new. Plus, Microsoft stopped supporting Visual Basic quite some time ago. And yet, according to the sites that monitor the relative popularity of programming languages, this platform continues to hold on—there must be a substantial number of hobbyists out there, or else tech pros tasked with maintaining legacy code.

Rather than learn Visual Basic, which will completely fade from view at some point, it’s worth your time to educate yourself in the particulars of its successor, Visual Basic .NET, an object-oriented programming language that launched in 2002 and continues to power the building of Windows apps. It’s safe to say that Microsoft isn’t going to stop supporting Visual basic .NET anytime soon, given its importance to the contemporary Windows ecosystem. (If you’re unfamiliar with Visual Basic .NET, note that Microsoft doesn’t use ‘.NET’ in its documentation, which can lead to some confusion between the contemporary .NET and “classic” Visual Basic.)

Perl

At one point, Perl seemed ubiquitous, and developers used it to build some of the biggest websites of yesteryear, including Craigslist and Slashdot. It was also useful for prototyping new, smaller programs, or creating wrapper functions.

Perl was doing so well for so long—it even broke into the top 10 of the TIOBE Index (peaking in ninth place) before tumbling to 16th. But it’s also a language in serious decline. In 2000, Perl creator (and the language’s “benevolent dictator for life”) Larry Wall announced that work had begun on Perl 6, the language’s next big iteration; it’s now 2018, and while the Rakudo Perl 6 compiler is in active development (targeting MoarVM and the Java Virtual Machine), momentum for the project seems to have frittered away. Smaller updates, meanwhile, continue on Perl 5 (which is up to 5.28).

What drove Perl’s decline? Some experts think that Python, which occupies much of the same programming “niche,” had something to do with it. “Perl’s eventual problem is that if the Perl community cannot attract beginner users like Python successfully has, it runs the risk of become like Children of Men, dwindling away to a standstill; vast repositories of hieroglyphic code looming in sections of the Internet and in data center partitions like the halls of the Mines of Moria,” Conor Myhrvold wrote for Fast Company in 2014. Not much has changed since.

COBOL

If you’re a COBOL programmer, chances are good you can land a job at a major institution that’s maintained a COBOL codebase since before you were born. Indeed, an industry-wide shortage of COBOL programmers means that such positions can provide quite a comfortable salary (the Dice Salary Calculator suggests $79,000 per year isn’t out of the question in California).

But sooner or later, COBOL is going to fade away as companies replace their tech stacks, especially if they opt for cloud-based solutions over on-premises. If you plan on having a decades-long career as a programmer, COBOL probably won’t be a factor in your mid- to late career.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: extinction; jobs; programming; software
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-102 next last

1 posted on 06/12/2021 9:01:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Add English


2 posted on 06/12/2021 9:04:03 PM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
... especially if they opt for cloud-based solutions over on-premises ...

Our security is permanently doomed once this becomes the norm.

3 posted on 06/12/2021 9:04:39 PM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

The first One I learned was Fortran IV


4 posted on 06/12/2021 9:04:48 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The MAGA-Deplorian; SeekAndFind; Red Badger

Oh man! They’re gonna keep FORTRAN. WAT IV?


5 posted on 06/12/2021 9:05:36 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind; jimrob

I’m not 100% sure, but I think JimRob wrote FR software with PERL.


6 posted on 06/12/2021 9:06:19 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

“If you’re a COBOL programmer, chances are good you can land a job at a major institution that’s maintained a COBOL codebase since before you were born.”

Learned COBOL and some mathematical programming language in the early Seventies.
COBOL reminds me of Medieval architecture...


7 posted on 06/12/2021 9:08:55 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Repeal The 17th

FORTRAN 77 here


8 posted on 06/12/2021 9:16:23 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: mrsmith

I Enjoy Data Processing!

(I actually don’t, at least not the COBOL way, but at least it works as an mnemonic for COBOL program sections)


9 posted on 06/12/2021 9:18:34 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I learned C+, COBOL, Assembler, Fortran-77.

Where is the the tech analog to the Rosetta Stone?

Not everything has been converted.


10 posted on 06/12/2021 9:20:21 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Verilog! I made a good living with that.


11 posted on 06/12/2021 9:20:21 PM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I learned programming in college using Basic and Fortran. I also learned using punch cards. Yes, I am old. I probably can’t get any programming jobs.


12 posted on 06/12/2021 9:21:17 PM PDT by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nailbiter

flr


13 posted on 06/12/2021 9:21:55 PM PDT by Nailbiter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

Pascal, Forth, APL. I don’t hear much about LISP anymore, or Smalltalk.


14 posted on 06/12/2021 9:24:46 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind
I have coded in the last four while my wife uses R, the first.

Perl works very well and it's easy to learn. COBOL is easy, too, but I preferred PL/1, which was very much like Pascal.

R and Perl will be staying around a while. COBOL was supposed to be out the door years ago, but it's still plugging away since Y2K gave it attention.

Objective-C seems the most likely to ease out the door. It was made for the NeXT computer, which is where I worked with it.

This article brings back good memories.

15 posted on 06/12/2021 9:27:04 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mrsmith

FORTRAN!
That was the mathematic programming language I learned back then.

Afterwards briefly had a period of creating games- but abandoned it since it was silly...


16 posted on 06/12/2021 9:30:14 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I wish PERL would go away, but it never does.


17 posted on 06/12/2021 9:30:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Still Thinking
FORTRAN 77 here

Newbie. FORTRAN 66 here, using punch cards.

18 posted on 06/12/2021 9:31:17 PM PDT by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: SeekAndFind

I see PERL on there... what about any sort of batch files? Hell, even in my Windows machines I script things in BASIC, put them in a CRON job, and let it run.


19 posted on 06/12/2021 9:31:59 PM PDT by ro_dreaming ("XX = female; XY = male. Who's the science deniers now?" - Me)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Steely Tom

I programmed in Forth. In fact, as a teen, I bought a Forth environment for $150 with money from walking beans.

I never met anyone who’d coded in APL, but I read several articles in Byte Magazine around it and was very intrigued.


20 posted on 06/12/2021 9:32:24 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-102 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson