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While I generally don't like the term, a fleet of these will be a game changer.

Intercontinental stealth, lighter than any in the current fleet (60,000 lb payload, all internal) with the sophisticated sensors and electronics of the F-35. Probably more so.

Able to launch hypersonics and control drones.

While not invisible, you have to get eyes on it to shoot at it with cannon.

1 posted on 06/10/2021 1:47:51 PM PDT by Mariner
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B1, B2, ... B21.

What happened to B3 through B20?

Or did they just meld B2 and B1 to get B21? Shouldn’t it be the BB21 to properly do the meld?


2 posted on 06/10/2021 1:50:30 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("Pour les vaincre il faut de l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace")
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Sweet. Looking forward to catching first glimpse of one.


3 posted on 06/10/2021 1:50:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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Depends on what it looks like on infrared.

This is a B-2 on infrared. If a VVLA on the ground can find the hole in the air a stealth aircraft looks like (and they can) and it vectors a fighter with look-down-shoot-down IRST (standard issue on many non-US fighters) close enough, this is what they see, and this can be done from further away than you can see it with the naked eye.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c6pa_vPE_k


4 posted on 06/10/2021 1:51:37 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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"While not invisible, you have to get eyes on it to shoot at it with cannon."

What about surfaced to air guided missles?

5 posted on 06/10/2021 1:52:34 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021 under Biteme.)
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Article says that the B-52H will fly into the 2040’s and maybe into the 2050’s. By then, the BUFF will be as ancient as the today’s DC-3’s that are still flying.


21 posted on 06/10/2021 2:07:51 PM PDT by DFG
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Are they going to use them to protect our borders?


25 posted on 06/10/2021 2:19:30 PM PDT by alternatives? (If our borders are not secure, why fund an army?)
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While not invisible, you have to get eyes on it to shoot at it with cannon.

One misconception about stealth technology is the belief that an aircraft has to be completely invisible to radar to be effective. This is a criticism often tossed at the F-35, because it isn’t as stealthy as the F-22. However, all that really matters is that an aircraft is stealthy enough, in the right frequency bands, that anti-aircraft fire control radars can’t lock on. It doesn’t matter if the enemy can see stealth aircraft if they can’t shoot at them.

42 posted on 06/10/2021 2:58:09 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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In order to reach a future fleet of 225 bombers, the service would need 149 B-21 Raider bombers.

I think the odds of 149 brand new state-of-the-art bombers being built are somewhere between hardly any and none at all. Most of the USAF's bombers are B-52s built 70 years ago. Next most common are B1 bombers built 50 years ago, and third most common are the B2 bombers built in the '90s. The trend is clear. There are 20 B2s in service. The Air Force will be lucky to get 10 of these new bombers.
43 posted on 06/10/2021 3:07:45 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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Will it come in rainbow colors or just basic black?


45 posted on 06/10/2021 3:09:09 PM PDT by 43north (Its hard to stop a man when he knows he's right and he keeps on comin'.)
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One can bet Biden will make sure China and Russia get the blue prints, if they don’t already have them.


46 posted on 06/10/2021 3:22:15 PM PDT by drypowder
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Old report - the later USAF release says they are still in production; all the armament, specifications and capability claims in PS are BS - as no one knows what they are or will be - its till classified.
See here:
Air Force Corrects Top Official’s Statement On B-21 Bomber Progress (**Updated**)
The first two examples of the advanced stealth bomber design are set to undergo ground testing before their planned first flight next year.
By Thomas Newdick June 9, 2021

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/41007/the-first-two-b-21-stealth-bombers-are-now-ready-for-testing

Update: After this story was published, the Air Force corrected the remarks that Darlene Costello, the Air Force’s Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Acquisition, Technology & Logistics, had made at the hearing on June 8 regarding the status of the two B-21 Raider stealth bomber prototypes now under construction. Contrary to Costello’s earlier comments, the service says that the two aircraft remain “in production.”


48 posted on 06/10/2021 3:41:35 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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We need these bad, to carry AIM-260 air to air missiles. China right now has us beat bad. Any victory currently would be pyhrric for the US. They have a 500 mi anti awacs missile and ability to overwhelm with cruise missiles and ballistic missiles. Only the F15 E and EX are somewhat capable agains such swarms, and only the tired few raptors can sneak against the their Awac missile.

Also the sniffing platforms need upgrades and we have too few of them. The B-21 could become a good sniffing platform helper able to avoid threats.


50 posted on 06/10/2021 3:54:47 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifie)
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A cannon?

At these speeds and distances an anti aircraft cannon would need to be radar aimed. Same with aircraft guns.

Thermal is out too I believe.


53 posted on 06/10/2021 4:24:53 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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Maybe we can get the Chinese to make ‘em for us cheaper.


62 posted on 06/10/2021 5:38:06 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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Are they sporting a rainbow flag yet?


64 posted on 06/10/2021 6:48:22 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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