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Remembering the Crew of USS Liberty (AGTR 5)
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Posted on 06/10/2021 3:19:12 AM PDT by mylife

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To: Jan_Sobieski; CodeToad

who said they were spying for Egypt? or in Israeli waters?


21 posted on 06/10/2021 7:54:47 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Kevmo

I’ve heard a similar story from the Israeli side.

But more specifically that President Johnson was effectively at war with swamp, very much like Trump, and the swamp wanted Israel destroyed. The NSA and State Department was actively helping the Arabs against direct orders of President Johnson.

So President Johnson Okayed an attack on the NSA boat thinking that the Israelis would sink it with all hands and all witnesses. But Israel chose a half measure.

Again, FWIW. I don’t have any more special knowledge than anyone.

But the above seems very logical.


22 posted on 06/10/2021 7:58:04 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: mylife

I actually met an injured survivor of the Liberty at Class A school in Pensacola Florida NCTC. He was a Petty Officer second class. I don’t remember his name.


23 posted on 06/10/2021 8:00:35 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I think you are correct.

That is the prevailing rumor in Israel.

I didn’t believe it until I watched the State Department under Trump so actively oppose him in an attempt to destroy Israel. It was eye opening how much the elites hate us.

Anyway, people forget Johnson was a committed Zionist, whatever his other flaws.


24 posted on 06/10/2021 8:07:50 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: mylife

“who said they were spying for Egypt? or in Israeli waters?”

So far, you’re the only one who has said that with your question.


25 posted on 06/10/2021 8:25:53 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Jewbacca

While most of the nation and Government has been pro-Israel since 1948, there has always been a powerful element in our Government dead set against it. The epicenter seems to be the State Department…but it has spread across the ALPHABET organizations…


26 posted on 06/10/2021 9:31:48 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Quality_Not_Quantity

>Need to research that statement. I was 12 at the time & don’t recall that being part of the narrative...

It is basically irrelevant. Nasser blockaded Israel’s port of Eilat at the Strait of Tiran on May 22, an act of war. The narrative above seems to have skipped that fine point.

You can see at several points somebody in Washington wanted it to happen, probably to gain intelligence in a very unintelligent way.

You have to remember that Eisenhower came out against Israel and the British in 1956, hardly the act of an ally. The US-Israeli alliance dates from Nixon in 1973 and not earlier.


27 posted on 06/10/2021 9:57:28 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (White Privilege does NOT begin with Being White but when you ACT "WHITE"! So, -- ACT "WHITE"!)
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To: mylife; CodeToad

Never mind. Clearly a case of mistaken identity. One of those collateral damage things.


28 posted on 06/10/2021 11:04:37 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: mylife

Democrats are good at recalling rescue planes and units when US forces are under attack...


29 posted on 06/10/2021 11:09:23 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: sarge83

yup.


30 posted on 06/10/2021 11:14:59 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Thanks for posting.

Imho, Robert McNamara was a pos, and deserved the lowest circle of Dante’s hell.

5.56mm


31 posted on 06/10/2021 11:55:28 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: M Kehoe

amen


32 posted on 06/10/2021 12:19:36 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
5 June 1967, 7:45 (all times cited are local Liberty time). Israel attacks Egypt, simultaneously putting out false reports that Egypt had attacked first.

Stopped reading at that lie. Israel was attacked on all fronts that day. I'm pretty certain that the Liberty was misidentified, not knowingly targeted as an American ship.

God Bless the crew of the Liberty, living and dead; but don't use them to try to spread hatred of Israel.

33 posted on 06/10/2021 1:48:04 PM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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the reports are from uss liberty


34 posted on 06/10/2021 2:53:53 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

How could the Liberty log be the source of when or if Egypt attacked?

Information — and misleading information — is included from outside sources.

Also key omissions, like omitting the blockade of Israeli port, which was the initial act of war.

I agree something hinkey happened here — and I am an Israeli pilot —- we study this attack as a major screw up — no probably THE major screw up of our new military. Run simulations to prevent it.

But adding demonstratively false information is not useful.


35 posted on 06/11/2021 8:05:42 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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