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No vaccine needed for those who’ve had COVID-19, Cleveland Clinic study says
WJW ^ | Jun 8, 2021 | Cris Belle

Posted on 06/08/2021 4:53:34 PM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: JonPreston

Perhaps you want to look up the actual legal definition of malpractice before wielding such a charge...

Notwithstanding, there is nothing new under the sun and since day one anyone with a basic understanding of biology would know that once recovered from CoVI-2, you dont need the vaccination.


41 posted on 06/08/2021 6:16:34 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr

although it did need to be prove. how long the natural immunity would last or if it would need to be boosted. So far so good


42 posted on 06/08/2021 6:19:20 PM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: Jane Long; Mom MD

Thanks folks for your replies.
Been asking for a while and getting confusing responses (even from those who knew the difference between antigen and antibody tests).
“Need to know” info IMO.

And remember... “a steady increase in cumulative incidence among previously uninfected subjects who remained unvaccinated.”


43 posted on 06/08/2021 6:26:10 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: gas_dr

The definition of malpractice is anything a lawyer determines it is. Also, if after this report from the Cleveland Clinic a practitioner fails to ask a patient (a vaccine is a medical procedure) before a vaccination if they’ve recovered from C19, then they’re at risk. But hey, it’s your license, do what you want.


44 posted on 06/08/2021 6:29:06 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: iontheball

No it won’t. It may make you more symptomatic than otherwise but it won’t kill you. I know plenty of people who had the disease then got the vaccination. They are all alive and kicking


45 posted on 06/08/2021 6:29:53 PM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: BenLurkin
Duh seems to be the given response.

I'm afraid they're going to wreck the natural immunity system of children with their "experimental" vaccine.

They should be tested to see if they have antibodies.

No matter what Fauci says, we are NOT smarter than Mother Nature and/or God.

46 posted on 06/08/2021 6:33:47 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Mark was here

Bkm


47 posted on 06/08/2021 6:35:03 PM PDT by just me (God bless President Trump and the USA)
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To: JonPreston

“Also, if after this report from the Cleveland Clinic a practitioner fails to ask a patient (a vaccine is a medical procedure) before a vaccination if they’ve recovered from C19, then they’re at risk.”

Why after this study? Since all medical personnel have training in basic biology they should not this need this study. If any suggested a person take an experimental vaccine when they did not need it that us clearly malpractice.


48 posted on 06/08/2021 6:35:55 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Baldwin

Thanks for posting that info!

You had no symptoms? You must have been pretty surprised when you got the test results!


49 posted on 06/08/2021 6:40:35 PM PDT by Fury
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To: JonPreston

You are incorrect about the definition of malpractice, which is the fundamental problem with wielding threats when you do not know of what you speak.

And as I said, there is no need to vaccinate the recovered.


50 posted on 06/08/2021 6:51:40 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr
And as I said, there is no need to vaccinate the recovered

And should a practitioner administer an unnecessary medical procedure, one which is known to cause adverse reactions as documented by the FDA, said practitioner is in jeopardy of committing malpractice.

51 posted on 06/08/2021 6:56:24 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: Mom MD

For the previously infected getting a shot means “super” protection- but how much protection does one really need?
https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1388636374459314178

Yet “a steady increase in cumulative incidence among previously uninfected subjects who remained unvaccinated.”


52 posted on 06/08/2021 7:01:52 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: just me

Thanks a billion.


53 posted on 06/08/2021 7:34:16 PM PDT by Mark was here (Say what you will about Kamala Harris, she certainly puts the "vice" in "Vice President.")
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To: Jewbacca

And thank you too.


54 posted on 06/08/2021 7:48:27 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: BenLurkin

What’s so great about this is Cleveland Clinic has an extremely high level of credibility (full disclosure, I work for them). And the consequence of this is that it will be extremely difficult for employers or businesses to require vaccination. Anyone who wishes not to take it can claim to have had the illness, I would say in the early days, and it becomes nearly impossible to challenge it. Now you have SCIENCEtm to back you up.

Cheers man!


55 posted on 06/08/2021 7:48:30 PM PDT by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: mrsmith

i’m not sure super protection exists. Immune is immune


56 posted on 06/08/2021 7:55:28 PM PDT by Mom MD ( )
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To: mrsmith; Mom MD; gas_dr

Yeah, to echo Mom MD, no test is 100% Yes it SHOULD trigger even if you had COVID-19 up to a year ago, but it’s also possible for your antibody count to be below the testing threshold for various reasons. It’s very unlikely to go the other direction, where it comes back positive mistakenly. This type of test is very specific in what will trigger it.

The tests usually aren’t too expensive for the basic ones (I’ve seen pricing ranging from $20 - $50 for most). If you’re curious whether you’ve had it before, it can certainly be worthwhile to check.


57 posted on 06/08/2021 8:04:32 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: gas_dr; Baldwin; Grampa Dave

gas_dr wrote:

“Perhaps you want to look up the actual legal definition of malpractice before wielding such a charge...

Notwithstanding, there is nothing new under the sun and since day one anyone with a basic understanding of biology would know that once recovered from CoVI-2, you dont need the vaccination.”

And are the $17 LabCorp antibody tests the same as what the Red Cross does, prior to donating blood?


58 posted on 06/08/2021 8:10:40 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: JonPreston

Actually, with vaccination, the typical default stance from pretty much anywhere in the medical community is going to be “better safe than sorry”. In other words, unless there is solid, definitive evidence against vaccinating someone who’s had COVID-19 previously, the default answer is going to be to go ahead and do it, particularly for those who had mild or asymptomatic COVID-19.

I would argue that given the evidence coming from Brazil and South Africa on reinfection with certain variants, it may still be beneficial to keep vaccines available to those who had mild or asymptomatic COVID-19. Particularly when the new “boosters” (which aren’t boosters since they’re targeting a slightly modified antigen) become available.


59 posted on 06/08/2021 8:10:42 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: americas.best.days...
What's so great about this is Cleveland Clinic has an extremely high level of credibility...

Agree...People from all over the globe, including members of my family, have benefited from CC's expertise. Here is another recent, interesting news release from that organization.

60 posted on 06/08/2021 8:16:30 PM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground - Mencken)
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