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Man who fired gun into home to “get rid of the lesbians and gays” charged with hate crime
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Posted on 06/02/2021 3:58:45 PM PDT by RandFan

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To: livius

I don’t think anyone is defending the guy. People don’t like the hate crime aspect because it is unclear that’s an important aspect of crime control, and difficult to prosecute and adjudicate fairly. I’m find with sending this guy up the river for a long, long time on attempted murder charges. Why is more needed?


21 posted on 06/02/2021 5:12:23 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster
Better ways to get rid of these types of neighbors....certain individuals know how to handle skunks.....slip one into their basement.
22 posted on 06/02/2021 5:18:12 PM PDT by caww ( )
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To: RandFan

Have any of those perverts ever been charged with a hate crime for trashing a Catholic church?


23 posted on 06/02/2021 5:29:09 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans a secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Bongino says.)
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To: Robert DeLong

“James Byrd Jr. was an African-American man who was murdered by three white supremacists in Jasper, Texas, on June 7, 1998. Shawn Berry, Lawrence Brewer, and John King dragged him for three miles behind a pickup truck along an asphalt road.”

And note that two of those people were executed, while the third gets to live because he sang, but will never leave jail.

...and all that punishment happened WITHOUT a hate crimes bill being law.

So I wonder what problem were they trying to solve with the new laws?


24 posted on 06/02/2021 5:32:33 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: RandFan

And,, in a semi-related story...

MOSES LAKE, Wash. - A bizarre video has gone viral that shows a boat erupting into flames and sinking on Moses Lake after its occupants harassed another boat that was displaying a Pride Flag. The video then shows the occupants of the Pride flag boat rescuing the boaters who had harassed them.


25 posted on 06/02/2021 5:39:55 PM PDT by hoagy62 (DTCM&OTTH)
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To: dsrtsage

No, it wouldn’t be OK, but keep your mouth shut and you’d only get 10 years.


26 posted on 06/02/2021 5:45:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (Will the Younger Dryas Impact you? )
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According to court documents, John Russell Howald, 44, of Basin, is charged with violating the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, and with the use of a firearm during and in relation to a crime of violence.

...and all that punishment happened WITHOUT a hate crimes bill being law.

I assume you mean at the time. Since the person with whom I had responded to was talking about a present day scenario, I was telling him that one would be prosecuted due to the skin color referenced.

Personally I abhor hate crime charges. Because the crime is heinous enough to mete out the most dire of sentences.

27 posted on 06/02/2021 6:11:21 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Skywise

Depends upon the prosecutor handling the case.


28 posted on 06/02/2021 6:14:21 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Yea, I just like to bring up the way they were punished, without the stupid laws. After all, what more can anyone ask?


29 posted on 06/02/2021 6:16:13 PM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Whatever gets him more time is fine with me.

Penalties should be harsher for something like this…and as for the hate crime aspect, what they need to do is apply it equally, even in the case of protected ethnic groups attacking the less protected.


30 posted on 06/02/2021 6:56:35 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

I see less defending of the guy than finding ways to highlight the absurdity of hate crime legislation.


31 posted on 06/02/2021 7:17:04 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: hoagy62

That’s a good story.


32 posted on 06/02/2021 7:46:22 PM PDT by Meatspace
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To: RandFan

I wonder if what the back story is on this incident? How did the suspect know it was a “gay house?” Any run-ins with the residents preciously?

We’ll never know with the Gaystapo in charge of media.


33 posted on 06/04/2021 10:38:36 AM PDT by fwdude (“I do think at a certain point you've paid enough taxes.” — Not Obama)
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To: RandFan

I wonder if what the back story is on this incident? How did the suspect know it was a “gay house?” Any run-ins with the residents preciously?

We’ll never know with the Gaystapo in charge of media.


34 posted on 06/04/2021 10:38:37 AM PDT by fwdude (“I do think at a certain point you've paid enough taxes.” — Not Obama)
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