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“shortages” are ALWAYS, and I do mean ALWAYS, a hallmark of socialist/communist/fascist economic regimes ... just as we were tested with creeping autocratic control of our daily lives during the covid “pandemic”, we’ve being gradually acclimated to “shortages”, starting with shortages of paper towels and toilet paper during the early days of the “pandemic”,with more and more “shortages” accumulating every since then ... we now have major shortages of building materials and appliances, initially intermittent shortages of energy supplies, and of course, now the ultimate shortage: food supplies ...

twenty years ago, how many here really believed that what we’re seeing today would be really happen?

.....”twenty years ago, how many here really believed that what we're seeing today would be really happen?”......

Well it's written it would come but I never expected the speed in which it's come about nor the comfort of which people appear perfectly acceptable it is so.....

twenty years ago, how many here really believed that what we’re seeing today would be really happen?

All us preppers. I started prepping about that long ago. Ten years ago we moved away from the East coast and I bought a rural junk of woods in rural MO Ozarks. USDA coil survey says this land is prime farmland soil, clayey loam. Not enough big flat lands or a long season for commercial AG but anything except for tropical fruits will grow here. We're surrounded by thousands of springs, most of the putting out potable water, the all supply the Meramec River which eventually feeds into the Mississippi River. Took me two years to find this place after we moved out here. Lived off grid for those two tears plus another three years here.

We're near the Southern tip of that, aka the beginning or head waters.

Were you struggling to find TP last Spring? I saw empty shelves in Italy weeks before we had shortages here and I stocked up. I'm no tree hugger but if you look into it, Big AG, Big Gov and Big Biz or Big anything don't care about the results of anything they do, so long as they get rich from it. You can add Big Med/Pharma in there too. If they keep getting rich while the rest of us live in dirt villages and walk or ride a bike everywhere and struggle just to subsist, that's fine with them. The roads, airways and places they live and visit will be less crowded with us heathens.