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We Can Have An Intelligent Conversation About Guns
American Thinker ^ | 1 Jun, 2021 | Andrew G. Benjamin

Posted on 06/01/2021 4:22:21 AM PDT by MtnClimber

First, though, we need to cut through the Orwellian language that the Democrats deploy regarding guns.

The compliant legacy media and woke academia have made it almost impossible to discuss the Second Amendment and most other subjects, for they’ve corrupted sensible, rational thinking, education, revised history, ignored reality and law, and inverted the meaning of words. Until we clear away this plethora of falsehoods and return words to their legitimate meanings, we cannot have an intelligent conversation about guns.

SNIP

GOVERNMENT “BUYBACK”

This term refers to the government “buying back” firearms it never owned. In a world where words have no meaning and meanings cannot be described with mere words, the government can “buy back” a product it never sold.

These firearms were legally transferred between willing private buyers and sellers exercising their rights to engage in lawful commerce. In firearm transfers, both parties in good faith, within free-market norms, exchange a legal commodity for which both had paid taxes (sales and income). The transfer complies with local, state, and federal law.

This lawful transfer explicitly expresses the universal norm: The non-expiry date of the license that the Constitution bestowed on every American citizen and his descendants in 1791. That’s when attendees at the Constitutional Convention unanimously ratified the Second Amendment. At that moment, the business of gun sales and purchase, according to the Founders and most normal Americans, was none of the government’s -- or your -- business.

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1 posted on 06/01/2021 4:22:21 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

What are they smoking?


2 posted on 06/01/2021 4:22:32 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Here’s my contribution to the “conversation”.

“NO!”

L


3 posted on 06/01/2021 4:27:24 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: MtnClimber

The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The Supreme Court says this right belongs to individuals.

What more really needs to be said? Gun Control is an abomination.


4 posted on 06/01/2021 4:32:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: MtnClimber

Depending on with whom the converstion occurs, yes. But if there is even one demon rat gene in the audience, then no, it just is not possible to carry on an honest converstion with the fools.


5 posted on 06/01/2021 4:34:52 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MtnClimber

We can start the conversation by agreeing on what ‘shall not be infringed’ means.


6 posted on 06/01/2021 4:35:40 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: MtnClimber

We already have an intelligent conversation about guns.
What part about “reasonable” don’t you deplorables understand ?!


7 posted on 06/01/2021 4:45:29 AM PDT by A strike (Were there rainbows before the Flood ?)
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To: MtnClimber

We cannot have an intelligent conversation with progressives or Democrats or leftists about guns.

Nor about racism.

Nor about feminism.

Nor about socialism vs. capitalism.

Nor about global warming.

Nor about homosexuality.

Nor about smaller government.

They want power and control. The above are emotional manipulation tools they use to grab power and control over sheeple. They will not relinquish any of their tools.


8 posted on 06/01/2021 4:48:25 AM PDT by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.d)
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To: MtnClimber
"Until we clear away this plethora of falsehoods and return words to their legitimate meanings, we cannot have an intelligent conversation about guns."

Fork and spoons, pens and Pencils, your shoes and socks and guns are all inanimate objects.. better to teach your unruly dog not to defecate in his own house then to blame the carpet, wouldn't you think.?

9 posted on 06/01/2021 4:55:02 AM PDT by unread (Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities - Voltaire)
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To: MtnClimber
The conversation is very simple.
"Do you believe in inalienable rights?"
"No I don't."
"Then leave this country because it's founded on limiting government from infringing on inalienable rights."
10 posted on 06/01/2021 4:56:27 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: MtnClimber

A conversation means one or both sides are intending to create some change in thinking or behavior.


11 posted on 06/01/2021 5:05:52 AM PDT by lurk ( )
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To: MtnClimber

Yrs, I agree
We can have conversations about guns with anyone.

I regularly converse with my family and neighbors about guns.

“Is 100 yards a “ long” shot?”
“40 cal or 38?

“Is an M1911 too heavy for 4’11” teenager?”

Yep we converse all the time.


12 posted on 06/01/2021 5:11:17 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuitss)
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To: polymuser

Thanks, Polymuser. All that needs be said is right there.
Either we take that stand, or we become slaves as are the Chinese.


13 posted on 06/01/2021 5:11:27 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Lurker

DITTO!


14 posted on 06/01/2021 5:13:05 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: MtnClimber

Nice article. In the words of smart people, words mean things. If you control the words, you control the outcome. Two of several money quotes from the article that follows what I tell others about guns being inert objects until caused to fulfill their purpose:

“For Democrats, gangbangers in Democrat-governed ghettos and the global Islamic Jihad are incapable of committing violence because thugs don’t commit violence. Guns do. Guns walk out of their closets, load themselves, drive to their workplaces, and empty themselves while going postal. They then go back home for a martini. Kitchen knives go out into the streets of London and Xinjiang. They even behead women at America’s meatpacking plants.”

And,

“Maybe kitchen knives should be serial numbered, with blade impressions logged for forensics records in a national database overseen by gun-banner Michael Bloomberg, who is surrounded 24/7 by six armed bodyguards. You see, Mikey knows what you never will: his life is more valuable than your life. His is worth defending. Yours is not.”

Again, thanks,

Gwjack


15 posted on 06/01/2021 5:24:38 AM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: MtnClimber

Sure.

You’re not getting them.

End of conversation.

‘Pod


16 posted on 06/01/2021 5:26:39 AM PDT by sauropod (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Macoozie
What is the right carry holster for a S & W .38 SP Air weight hammerless pistol? Serious question.

My old Taurus is to short. Range didn't have one. It is still on weird hours being open. It is not secure, wants to fall out.

Keep telling hubby 1 box of 12 gauge is NOT enough. He chose it because of vision issues for home defense. I'm the Permit holder. Been building my ammo supply since Obumber.

17 posted on 06/01/2021 5:28:53 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: GailA

Here is a possibility:

https://www.simplyrugged.com/ecommerce/Silver-Dollar-Pancake-SMALL-FRAME-REVOLVERS-Leather-Concealed-Carry-Holster.cfm?item_id=152&parent=669


18 posted on 06/01/2021 5:34:28 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Macoozie

You have actually had a conversation regarding .40 or .38? I’m struggling to considerer the context? Which to reload next?


19 posted on 06/01/2021 5:40:50 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: MtnClimber
Law abiding citizens are not the problem.

20 posted on 06/01/2021 5:52:45 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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