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To: House Atreides

That’s one of my concerns. I just cannot reach the degree of conviction you have about the safety of these “vaccines”. “Transitory chills”? Do you have even the slightest thought/concern that maybe it’s your body telling you that you have just totally wrecked your immune system.
And all our previous comments to each other aside. There are many people that post they received a “vaccine” two, four, six, etc. months ago and they still feel fine. OK, I believe them. COVID19 has been around for at least a year and a half, I haven’t gotten a “vaccine” and I am still fine. It would be a strain on credulity to believe I have not been exposed to COVID19. It much more likely that I have already been exposed and naturally acquired immunity. In which case getting a “vaccine” is defintely the wrong thing to do. Especially since there is evidence that the “vaccines” destroy your naturally acquired immunity. You are so adamant in your stance that these “vaccines” are not only harmless but are the only solution.


32 posted on 05/29/2021 3:15:21 PM PDT by sageburn
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To: sageburn

“…Especially since there is evidence that the “vaccines” destroy your naturally acquired immunity. You are so adamant in your stance that these “vaccines” are not only harmless but are the only solution….”
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Regarding your first sentence, I’ve seen no convincing evidence of that.

Regarding the second sentence, I’ve never claimed that vaccines never have side effects and potentially, in rarer cases, severe side effects. If you check my posting history you’ll see that I most definitely don’t think vaccinations are “the only solution”. Natural immunity acquired from having the disease is at least as good as the immunity achieved through vaccination and BOTH contribute to herd immunity. I don’t believe in mandatory vaccination nor do I believe in advancing lies from either side on the question of COVID-19 vaccination.


38 posted on 05/29/2021 3:29:03 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: sageburn; House Atreides
"That’s one of my concerns. I just cannot reach the degree of conviction you have about the safety of these 'vaccines'. 'Transitory chills'? Do you have even the slightest thought/concern that maybe it’s your body telling you that you have just totally wrecked your immune system."

I was close to someone who had a bad cold for days but didn't catch it. Maybe some of us have improved immunity after mad cow disease and death, but these bar codes appearing on our foreheads are somewhat odd. ...and the tails starting to grow.

51 posted on 05/29/2021 4:14:04 PM PDT by familyop (Natural born slaves are easily led to distrust and hate their intellectual benefactors.)
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To: sageburn
Do you have even the slightest thought/concern that maybe it’s your body telling you that you have just totally wrecked your immune system.

Wrecked? Why do you say that? The immune system is temporarily overstimulated by the excess spike proteins. Not nearly as bad as when invaded by the virus. Then it's cytokene storm time for many (and the reason to take HCQ).

The immune system is somewhat tuned but not so delicate that it can't get back to normal a few days after the vaccine.

OK, I believe them. COVID19 has been around for at least a year and a half, I haven’t gotten a “vaccine” and I am still fine. It would be a strain on credulity to believe I have not been exposed to COVID19. It much more likely that I have already been exposed and naturally acquired immunity.

That's nice, if that's what you want to believe, then go for it. I took an antibody test and it was negative so I did the J&J. It really depends on the individiual but I would say that older people should benefit and younger should probably avoid the vaccine.

Especially since there is evidence that the “vaccines” destroy your naturally acquired immunity. You are so adamant in your stance that these “vaccines” are not only harmless but are the only solution.

I don't there's evidence for that, just speculation. Evidence would require numbers of COVID survivors getting vaxxed and getting worse COVID. Have not heard of anything like that, not even one case.

As for harmless, no they are deinitely not harmless. The stimulate the immune system and in some cases they overstimulate it. We know that already and we don't know the long term consequences. I am not cavalier about it, but I am not going all out in the other direction either. People need to balance their perspectives and read more widely, not just the side they believe.

74 posted on 05/29/2021 6:55:08 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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