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Orange County woman's death after 2nd dose of Moderna vaccine spurs concern from family
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Posted on 05/29/2021 2:04:45 PM PDT by Tipllub

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To: bray

Now she will live eternally as a Democrat voter in multiple states


61 posted on 05/29/2021 4:53:57 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: politicianslie

I have two kids who have gotten the vaccine.

They are adults and I can not make their decisions for them.

ButI am praying for their protect every day.


62 posted on 05/29/2021 4:57:49 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: familyop
Dear Media,Please retire the use of the term “Anti-vaxxer.” It is derogatory, inflammatory, and marginalizes both women and their experiences. It is dismissivemy simplistic, highly offensive and largely false.

They know that.

And that is exactly why the vax pushers use it.

63 posted on 05/29/2021 5:03:09 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: House Atreides

The only falsehoods being promoted here are the vax pushers who are guaranteeing that the so-called vaccine is safe and effective.

It’s not showing to be either safe or effective and sine long term results cannot be known for 5-10 years, there’s no way they can guarantee it either.


64 posted on 05/29/2021 5:06:14 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: P-Marlowe
Most of the people dying from the jab would never have died from the disease

This is why I ask people why they are insisting on taking the vaccine. It's bizarre that so many refuse to acknowledge the recovery rate and the most bizarre thing is how rabid and vicious people are toward people who choose not to get it.

We just need to intimidate them right back for their ignorance/stupidity. I'll not be intimidated into following a herd and if they don't like it...well that's just too bad.

65 posted on 05/29/2021 5:07:53 PM PDT by LibertyWoman ("Where there is no law, there is no liberty." Benjamin Rush)
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To: P-Marlowe
Most of the people dying from the jab would never have died from the disease

This is why I ask people why they are insisting on taking the vaccine. It's bizarre that so many refuse to acknowledge the recovery rate and the most bizarre thing is how rabid and vicious people are toward people who choose not to get it.

We just need to intimidate them right back for their ignorance/stupidity. I'll not be intimidated into following a herd and if they don't like it...well that's just too bad.

66 posted on 05/29/2021 5:07:53 PM PDT by LibertyWoman ("Where there is no law, there is no liberty." Benjamin Rush)
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To: P-Marlowe

I call it......
The vaxtermination


67 posted on 05/29/2021 5:12:13 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: P-Marlowe

I call it......
The vaxtermination


68 posted on 05/29/2021 5:12:13 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: House Atreides

This is the one I participated in

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01877655?cond=CMV&cntry=US&state=US%3AMD&city=Baltimore&draw=2&rank=8


69 posted on 05/29/2021 5:37:39 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: House Atreides

OK, for the most part fair enough. You have narrowed it down to convincing evidence and I guess that it where we differ. I don’t and you don’t really know for sure what is the best thing to do. I absolutely don’t bear you any bad will. I sincerely hope the vaccines are what they have been purported to be as so many of my family and friends have gotten them.
It has never been my intent to offend anyone and I don’t try to dissuade anyone from getting a vaccine. I’m just expressing that I think people should really be fully informed and make the decision with their eyes wide-opened.
We can argue/debate until hell freezes over, I think it’s obvious we’re not going to change each other’s minds.
Eventually time will tell, and it may surprise you, I hope you are correct.


70 posted on 05/29/2021 5:56:23 PM PDT by sageburn
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To: P-Marlowe

Your last sentence really boils down what I have been trying to say. You nailed it!!!


71 posted on 05/29/2021 5:59:37 PM PDT by sageburn
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To: House Atreides

It looks like it didn’t pass

https://www.fiercepharma.com/vaccines/vical-s-astellas-partnered-cmv-vaccine-failed-phase-3


72 posted on 05/29/2021 6:01:47 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Metrobank

You are correct! It is very similar to Russian Roulette. Except the rabid “pro-vax” defenders who love to harp that they received a “vaccine” four months ago and they’re still fine don’t realize they have to pull the trigger for the rest of their lives.


73 posted on 05/29/2021 6:03:01 PM PDT by sageburn
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To: sageburn
Do you have even the slightest thought/concern that maybe it’s your body telling you that you have just totally wrecked your immune system.

Wrecked? Why do you say that? The immune system is temporarily overstimulated by the excess spike proteins. Not nearly as bad as when invaded by the virus. Then it's cytokene storm time for many (and the reason to take HCQ).

The immune system is somewhat tuned but not so delicate that it can't get back to normal a few days after the vaccine.

OK, I believe them. COVID19 has been around for at least a year and a half, I haven’t gotten a “vaccine” and I am still fine. It would be a strain on credulity to believe I have not been exposed to COVID19. It much more likely that I have already been exposed and naturally acquired immunity.

That's nice, if that's what you want to believe, then go for it. I took an antibody test and it was negative so I did the J&J. It really depends on the individiual but I would say that older people should benefit and younger should probably avoid the vaccine.

Especially since there is evidence that the “vaccines” destroy your naturally acquired immunity. You are so adamant in your stance that these “vaccines” are not only harmless but are the only solution.

I don't there's evidence for that, just speculation. Evidence would require numbers of COVID survivors getting vaxxed and getting worse COVID. Have not heard of anything like that, not even one case.

As for harmless, no they are deinitely not harmless. The stimulate the immune system and in some cases they overstimulate it. We know that already and we don't know the long term consequences. I am not cavalier about it, but I am not going all out in the other direction either. People need to balance their perspectives and read more widely, not just the side they believe.

74 posted on 05/29/2021 6:55:08 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: politicianslie
He says:"You are losing the most precious part of your immune system that you can imagine, and that is your innate immune system".

It's pure speculation and innuendo that deserves to be ignored: it's vague, it's contrary to the reactions in individuals, and not supported by aggregate data showing vaccine effectiveness.

All his innuendo will be disproved in a few months in numerous countries like Israel and then he will move his goalposts and get even more shrill.

75 posted on 05/29/2021 7:05:43 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: palmer

lol, OK, I am happy you are comfortable with your decision to get an experimental injection. Far be it from me to even suggest there may be any risks associated with that. You are right and I am wrong. Happy now? Regardless of what I have posted you still have to deal with your own fears. If me agreeing with you assuages your fears I am happy to help.


76 posted on 05/29/2021 7:06:55 PM PDT by sageburn
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To: P-Marlowe
This is about the only place on the Internet where they don’t censor people who have legitimate concerns about the vaccines,

I have legitimate concerns. But it's up to everyone to evaluate their own risks

Everyone in my circle of friends got COVID. None of them had serious symptoms. I never got it and I’m not careful. I probably have natural immunity.

Probably not.

77 posted on 05/29/2021 7:08:08 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: LibertyWoman
We just need to intimidate them right back for their ignorance/stupidity.

Calling people ignorant and stupid is just going to get you ignored. There are legitimate concerns with overstimulated immune systems with the vaxes. But there are many worse cases with the disease and 1% die. And of course you can take actions to avoid getting the disease so everyone has to evaluate their own risk of that. In general older people will be better off getting vaccinated and younger better off without. But there's no hard and fast rule.

78 posted on 05/29/2021 7:14:11 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: sageburn
Far be it from me to even suggest there may be any risks associated with that.

Of course there are risks. Why do assume everyone is ignorant?

79 posted on 05/29/2021 7:16:35 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: sageburn
don’t realize they have to pull the trigger for the rest of their lives.

Huh? No that's not correct. Taking a accine does not obligate anyone to take a booster. It's no different from not taking the vaccine.

80 posted on 05/29/2021 7:18:24 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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