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The Fight For The Right To Die
Sky News ^ | May 25 | Sky News

Posted on 05/26/2021 8:13:53 AM PDT by RandFan

Phil Newby continues his fight for the right to assisted dying after years of struggling with motor neurone disease.

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To: RandFan
Phil Newby is an evil person as well as being an attention whore.

You have the right to kill yourself.

You have absolutely NO right to force someone else to be involved.

Asking someone else to kill you is the height of selfishness.

Do your own dirty work.

Do not force that on someone else.

21 posted on 05/26/2021 9:14:44 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione. (I'm not interested in your dopey religious cult.))
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To: RandFan

I object to anyone insisting they have a right to have someone else make them die.

It is negative for society and the person(s) killing you.

Kill yourself by yourself if you must. Leave the rest of us alone. And don’t redefine the medical profession. They are already killing babies and mutilating healthy reproductive systems, sometimes in kids. They don’t need to start killing adults.


22 posted on 05/26/2021 9:19:25 AM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: JerryBlackwell

One need not jump off a bridge. He could buy some oxy and overdose.


23 posted on 05/26/2021 9:20:07 AM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen )
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To: RandFan

Everyone has a right to die. Most of the time, the issue is fighting to live when that is not possible.

No doctor has ever been convicted of a crime for administering a lethal dose of morphine to a dying person whose suffering cannot be alleviated otherwise. Occasionally, in the old days, a DA running for re-election in a (formerly) Catholic city or state could secure an indictment, but even that was exceedingly rare. Now that there are no more Catholic cities or states, this doesn’t happen any more.

Yes, there are sociopaths like Kevorkian who are rightly in prison, but he was killing healthy people.

No one has a right to make a doctor kill them.

In the gray zone? Those who say, don’t know, and those who know, don’t say.


24 posted on 05/26/2021 9:28:32 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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To: RandFan

We need to do all we can for people, and yeah, sometimes they are going to decide they are ready to die. But it has to be something THEY figure out a way to accomplish, not something we encourage or facilitate.

I cannot thing of a way we can, without it becoming “expected” for certain people. In families, people will begin to expect it for some. Doctors will start offering to discuss “options”, giving the subtle idea that the Doc thinks they should.
And in socialized medicine, you will be accused of wasting money and resources.
We are not in socialized medicine yet, but we already hear about what “we” spend on end of life care. They never even consider that if I have money in the bank, or I have purchased insurance, “we” didn’t spend anything... but they already act like spending your own money (or insurance you have contracted for) is spending something that belongs to them.

And then of course, this was literally the first of the nazi murders. Aktion T4 euthanasia was the forst nazi legitimization of state ending life they felt was worthless.

There are already cases in the Netherlands of involuntary euthanasia. (aka.. homicide)


25 posted on 05/26/2021 9:35:50 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Jim Noble

I had an uncle (85 years old) who was in perfect health and then managed to die a few days after his wife (of more than sixty years) did.

Everyone who knew him well knew it was suicide—but nobody wanted to pursue it.

That was his call—and he did not drag anyone else into it.


26 posted on 05/26/2021 9:46:05 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: DesertRhino

You make a persuasive case, DR re: heirs wanting to get their hands on an estate!

It would be very difficult to administer and a minefield.


27 posted on 05/26/2021 9:49:56 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: Jim Noble

Having thought about it I think the law is best left alone.

Those who can go to Switzerland and pay $15k to get the job done.

http://www.dignitas.ch/


28 posted on 05/26/2021 9:56:20 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: JerryBlackwell

Lots of other ways.


29 posted on 05/26/2021 10:04:16 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Hospitals make their money on the last two weeks of someone’s life.


30 posted on 05/26/2021 10:22:01 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (I got the shot. Not because I wanted to. Because I had to, in violation of my civil rights.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
It’s a slippery slope for sure.

The problem with "the right to die" is how quickly it turns into a "duty to die" when the person becomes a financial burden to family and particularly The State.

31 posted on 05/26/2021 10:24:48 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

I agree no one should be coerced into assisting a suicide. It should be on the person to do it.


32 posted on 05/26/2021 10:34:21 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Enough. Divide the country.. now. )
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To: RandFan
With debilitating diseases such as his and others much worse, it should be the individual's choice after counseling and the means to do so in a humane and painless manner should be available.........
33 posted on 05/26/2021 11:36:28 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: ScottinVA
likely ALS. Death from that is a miserable experience;

I play senior softball with a 70+ great guy who has suffered with noticeable Parkinson's disease for years who was recently diagnosed with ALS......

I think he has resigned himself to the death sentence and is playing as much softball as he can while he still can.

34 posted on 05/26/2021 11:40:37 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: RandFan

He’s afraid to commit suicide. He wants a society that gets others to murder instead.


35 posted on 05/28/2021 3:35:57 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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