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Addressing The "Concern" Posted On Free Republic That Deaths Following Covid-19 "Vaccination" And Published To VAERS Are COINCIDENTAL And Not Useful Indicators of Safety
5/24/2021 | vanity

Posted on 05/24/2021 2:18:06 PM PDT by ransomnote

I began writing a reply to a post in the forum and decided to make it a standalone thread given both the level of effort expended and the frequency I encounter the issue at hand.

FReeper assertion seen in the forum: There are convincing analyses showing that VAERS is only reporting 1/4 of events (including deaths). That’s still almost 4,000 deaths that should be in VAERS, essentially matching what we see in VAERS. If those assumptions are true, it is entirely coincidental deaths. If you take issue with an assumption please specific.

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51% of events published to VAERS [5/21 data] were reported during December and January.  36 million doses of the Covid 'vaccines' were administered during those 51 days. 

Data analyst Albert Benevenidos (sp) used the ratios of adverse event categories (hospitalizations, deaths, office vists etc.) from those records to estimate number of adverse events reported, but not published, by the CDC during the administration of an additional 230 million doses from February to May.

Using that method, Benvidos estimates there have actually been 12,200 deaths and over 1 million adverse events  reported to the CDC, most of which have not been published. That's close to your 14K.

However, based on a Harvard study which found only about 1% of actual events are ever reported to the CDC, he adjusted that figure. Instead of multiplying by 100 to estimate total numbers of  actual post vaccine deaths, he cut that factor to be extremely conservative, as if half of all Covid deaths are reported to VAERS, an impossibly low ratio.

Assuming 1/2 of all post 'vaccine' deaths were being reported to the CDC , the total adjusted estimate for adverse events following Covid 'vaccination' is 610,000 deaths and 50 million adverse events, according to Benevenidos' analysis.

The CDC is not making much of an effort to monitor safety during the purported Covid 'pandemic' or else it would be vigilant in updating and maintaining VAERS promptly. To clear the air, the CDC can easily refute these numbers by uploading the reports it has received but not published.

Also, there are numerous reports of doctors and patients not able to file reports to the CDC. 

How To Report An Adverse Event To VAERS (CDC Database) ONLINE  Following Covid-19 Vaccination 

On the CDC's  'how to' page for reporting to VAERS, the linked table of 'reportable events' which lists the names of vaccines, does not include Covid. That makes sense, at first, because the Covid 'vaccines' are not actually vaccines. However, it certainly must discourage some from reporting their struggles.

So the numbers of reports the CDC is throttled back by challenges the patients face just to file, as are the CDC's decision to publish only a fraction of the reports it receives to VAERS.

And of course, the Harvard research which found only about 1% of actual vaccine adverse events were ever reported to the CDC was conducted was prior to Covid lockdowns which reduced medical and nursing home staff available to file such reports.

Certainly, there are concerns about reports that at nursing homes are under reporting cause of death a level never seen before.

I've heard that we 'must understand' that the most vulerable were vaccinated first and therefore early reports contained a higher proportion of deaths. I don't know if that's true, because based on the conduct of the CDC since the start of the Plandemic, I'm not willing to assume that the CDC is randomly selecting which records it will upload. They could be selectively withholding death reports based on age or other combinations of demographics and instead publishing less severe adverse events.

Remember that reports from December and January are not updated after the patient leaves the ER or hospital, so if those who were surviving during  their ER visit, hospital stay or other event reported to VAERS, but continued a downward spiral and died afterwards, their deaths are not counted.]

Note that the table below does not include records in which a check mark was missing from a specific field in VAERS, but 'death' or 'autopsy request' was typed in the 'event descripton' for the patient.

Also, of the 80 deaths published to VAERS during this time period but classified as vaccine type 'unknown' about half of the 20 I reviewed had text in the description field which indicated they were Covid 'vaccines'. Therefore, some numbers are still under reported in the table below. 



Note that 270 deaths following Covid vaccines published to VAERS are 'unknown age' and are not shown in the table.

There are many complications with poorly maintained data in VAERS which impedes understanding of the impact vaccines may be having on the public. Again, if the CDC would like to clarify these concerns during what they claim is a national emergency updating and correcting data in VAERS, they have the tax payer funds to do so.

The CDC tracks every vaccination carefully, something they would do even if they weren't preparing to roll out vaccine passport mandates.

I believe the NIH/CDC/FDA have the IT and access/infrastructure to match data from other federal or state databases, like US death certificates, with with vaccine records by Social Security Number, if they wanted to. Hospital software tracks annual deaths by type (accidental death versus illness) so surely there are medical databases which could be matched to vaccination databases  - likely both types of data are sitting in the same system(s) right now. 

Do you think 610,000 deaths following Covid 'vaccinations' is an over estimate? Okay, cut it in half. So the estimate becomes 'only' 305,000 deaths following Covid 'vaccination'. Is everything alright now? 

If you think the CDC is concerned, you'd be wrong. Their only concern is concealing this information from the public.


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To: 2aProtectsTheRest; ransomnote
Another baseless assertion from you.

Oh snap! You just got Snoped.

Again!!


81 posted on 05/24/2021 4:12:02 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

For your enjoyment:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/gFq50Z2nrS5n/


82 posted on 05/24/2021 4:12:15 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Seeing a lot of false and misleading claims throughout that video.

Whatever the source of that video, consider getting better sources.


83 posted on 05/24/2021 4:14:09 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: gas_dr

if you actually believe calling you out on your hypocrisy is harassment then you need to leave and go back to the kids table to play...

bless your heart...


84 posted on 05/24/2021 4:14:45 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: gas_dr; heavy metal
Stop posting to me.


85 posted on 05/24/2021 4:14:51 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: mrsmith
My favorite “adverse events” list is of “adverse events” that happen after I get out of bed...

Lies.

You never get out of bed.


86 posted on 05/24/2021 4:16:00 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: palmer
As time passes they lose the VAERS handout or assume it wasn't due to the vax.

Yea. Or the dog ate it.

You people get more ridiculous with each passing second.

#TheExcusesAreLegion


87 posted on 05/24/2021 4:17:41 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

“But hey, if you think you’re right and President Trump is wrong, “

If President Trump thought it was a good idea to take an already “failed in animal trials” mRNA gene therapy, call it a “vaccine”, and unleash it on the population, then he was wrong, dead wrong. No vaccine should be worked at “warp speed” (warp speed just meant little to no testing you fool).

I get the feeling Trump wanted a vaccine, not a “vaccine”. You know a vaccine that merriam webster would not have to change the dictionary for. You know an ATTENUATED VIRUS VACCINE.

Feel free to pass this on to your superiors. Perhaps you will get a bonus for showing the powers that be that we think for ourselves just a bit more than they think. They’re gonna need to change their game plan.

See you on the next 2nd amendment thread.....oh thats right your screen name is only a clever tool not something you truly believe. Hint it isn’t working.


88 posted on 05/24/2021 4:18:23 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: ransomnote
"This is false."

So then produce a single US Standard Certificate of Death which lists COVID-19 vaccine in Section 32 Part I. Or, produce a single doctor or medical examiner willing to go on record to state that they have had a specific patient die because of a COVID-19 vaccine. You want to claim over 600,000 deaths from the vaccines, but you can't produce a single shred of verifiable, official documentation to support a single one of them.

"I've seen reports in VAERS in which"

And I've seen reports in VAERS in which a doctor claimed a vaccine turned him into the Incredible Hulk. Or that a vaccine turned a man's daughter into Wonder Woman. Your source data is unverified anonymous reports. It's basically Wikipedia. Or 4chan.

"Covid is about 99.8% survivable"

99% - 99.35%.

"Dr. McCullough, Dr. Zelenko and others have all created treatment protocols which reduce cause of death among the most vulnerable by 85%"

Funny how they didn't bother with any of that crap when it was President Trump's life on the line. They went straight to monoclonal antibody therapy. Why do you think that is? If all these miracle cures exist and work so exquisitely well, why did they go to the expensive, brand new treatment option? You think the President of the United States doesn't have the best doctors and access to the best treatment on Earth?

I do, and President Trump got it.

89 posted on 05/24/2021 4:19:52 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: gas_dr
"Somehow your inability to make an argument and to attack are simply Alinsky tactics...."

Which completely describes your TOTAL postings on FR.

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90 posted on 05/24/2021 4:20:24 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

2aProtectsTheRest is banging the fear drum enough. Don’t help them do it.


91 posted on 05/24/2021 4:21:27 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: bagster

Or just tired of getting the same copied-and-pasted garbage spammed to us on thread after thread.

If somebody wants to have a genuine discussion - regardless of whether we agree - I’m happy to engage. If somebody just wants to spam nonsense, no thanks.


92 posted on 05/24/2021 4:21:32 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: gas_dr
You can SURE dish it out Eddie, but cry and melt like a snowflake when it's directed at you.....

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93 posted on 05/24/2021 4:22:47 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: walkingdead

mRNA vaccines are not gene therapy and have not failed in animal trials.

Testing involved over 100,000 people and full Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3 clinical trials for nearly a year before a EUA was given.


94 posted on 05/24/2021 4:24:28 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: ransomnote

I don’t understand your numbers. 610,000 deaths since Dec doesn’t mesh with the total mortality of 595K in 18 months, about 300K since Biden took office. The 330K that died last year and the 200K through at least March of this year had no vaccine available to them (outside of nursing homes) because of botched and spotty rollouts.

My belief is the longer we go into the pandemic, the higher the odds of exposure for those who haven’t been vaccinated. So when they do get vaccinated, they may already have been exposed to the virus and be in the first few days of active but still asymptomatic infection, in which case, the vaccine won’t help them. For instance, an infected health care worker carries it into a nursing home 3 days before vaccines are given. Alternately, could be those that get vaccinated and disregard the 21 days to antibody strength timeframe, catch the virus a few days later and die before antibody strength has been built. (such as the Calif girl who flew to the east 3 days after vaccination and got infected). Contact tracing might tell a clearer story, but the govt tracing program was a huge financial waste with little real data that’s been shared.


95 posted on 05/24/2021 4:24:45 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: musicman
"....AND then get hammered on FR all day for posting nothing but crap."

Haha.

Hey, at least SOMEBODY is talking to her.

It can get lonely at El Boca Vista.


96 posted on 05/24/2021 4:25:06 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster
Losing the sheet or assuming it wasn't the vax works both ways. Someone can have a reaction a week later, look for the sheet, not find it, and never report it.

My explanation of the drop-off in VAERS reports is simply a fact of the passage of time, independent of any correlation to the vax.

97 posted on 05/24/2021 4:25:34 PM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest; All
"Or just tired of getting the same copied-and-pasted garbage spammed to us on thread after thread..."
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98 posted on 05/24/2021 4:26:39 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

how do you find the time to post on these threads 22 hours a day???...


99 posted on 05/24/2021 4:28:24 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: mrsmith
She certainly doesn’t consider it an “adverse event”, but likely the high point of her poor life.

Project much?

It must be nice to be so self-aware.

Good for you, Mith.


100 posted on 05/24/2021 4:28:32 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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