Posted on 05/24/2021 2:18:06 PM PDT by ransomnote
I began writing a reply to a post in the forum and decided to make it a standalone thread given both the level of effort expended and the frequency I encounter the issue at hand.
FReeper assertion seen in the forum: There are convincing analyses showing that VAERS is only reporting 1/4 of events (including deaths). That’s still almost 4,000 deaths that should be in VAERS, essentially matching what we see in VAERS. If those assumptions are true, it is entirely coincidental deaths. If you take issue with an assumption please specific.
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51% of events published to VAERS [5/21 data] were reported during December and January. 36 million doses of the Covid 'vaccines' were administered during those 51 days.
Data analyst Albert Benevenidos (sp) used the ratios of adverse event categories (hospitalizations, deaths, office vists etc.) from those records to estimate number of adverse events reported, but not published, by the CDC during the administration of an additional 230 million doses from February to May.
Using that method, Benvidos estimates there have actually been 12,200 deaths and over 1 million adverse events reported to the CDC, most of which have not been published. That's close to your 14K.
However, based on a Harvard study which found only about 1% of actual events are ever reported to the CDC, he adjusted that figure. Instead of multiplying by 100 to estimate total numbers of actual post vaccine deaths, he cut that factor to be extremely conservative, as if half of all Covid deaths are reported to VAERS, an impossibly low ratio.
Assuming 1/2 of all post 'vaccine' deaths were being reported to the CDC , the total adjusted estimate for adverse events following Covid 'vaccination' is 610,000 deaths and 50 million adverse events, according to Benevenidos' analysis.
The CDC is not making much of an effort to monitor safety during the purported Covid 'pandemic' or else it would be vigilant in updating and maintaining VAERS promptly. To clear the air, the CDC can easily refute these numbers by uploading the reports it has received but not published.
Also, there are numerous reports of doctors and patients not able to file reports to the CDC.
How To Report An Adverse Event To VAERS (CDC Database) ONLINE Following Covid-19 Vaccination
On the CDC's 'how to' page for reporting to VAERS, the linked table of 'reportable events' which lists the names of vaccines, does not include Covid. That makes sense, at first, because the Covid 'vaccines' are not actually vaccines. However, it certainly must discourage some from reporting their struggles.
So the numbers of reports the CDC is throttled back by challenges the patients face just to file, as are the CDC's decision to publish only a fraction of the reports it receives to VAERS.
And of course, the Harvard research which found only about 1% of actual vaccine adverse events were ever reported to the CDC was conducted was prior to Covid lockdowns which reduced medical and nursing home staff available to file such reports.
Certainly, there are concerns about reports that at nursing homes are under reporting cause of death a level never seen before.
I've heard that we 'must understand' that the most vulerable were vaccinated first and therefore early reports contained a higher proportion of deaths. I don't know if that's true, because based on the conduct of the CDC since the start of the Plandemic, I'm not willing to assume that the CDC is randomly selecting which records it will upload. They could be selectively withholding death reports based on age or other combinations of demographics and instead publishing less severe adverse events.
Remember that reports from December and January are not updated after the patient leaves the ER or hospital, so if those who were surviving during their ER visit, hospital stay or other event reported to VAERS, but continued a downward spiral and died afterwards, their deaths are not counted.]
Note that the table below does not include records in which a check mark was missing from a specific field in VAERS, but 'death' or 'autopsy request' was typed in the 'event descripton' for the patient.
Also, of the 80 deaths published to VAERS during this time period but classified as vaccine type 'unknown' about half of the 20 I reviewed had text in the description field which indicated they were Covid 'vaccines'. Therefore, some numbers are still under reported in the table below.
Note that 270 deaths following Covid vaccines published to VAERS are 'unknown age' and are not shown in the table.
There are many complications with poorly maintained data in VAERS which impedes understanding of the impact vaccines may be having on the public. Again, if the CDC would like to clarify these concerns during what they claim is a national emergency updating and correcting data in VAERS, they have the tax payer funds to do so.
The CDC tracks every vaccination carefully, something they would do even if they weren't preparing to roll out vaccine passport mandates.
I believe the NIH/CDC/FDA have the IT and access/infrastructure to match data from other federal or state databases, like US death certificates, with with vaccine records by Social Security Number, if they wanted to. Hospital software tracks annual deaths by type (accidental death versus illness) so surely there are medical databases which could be matched to vaccination databases - likely both types of data are sitting in the same system(s) right now.
Do you think 610,000 deaths following Covid 'vaccinations' is an over estimate? Okay, cut it in half. So the estimate becomes 'only' 305,000 deaths following Covid 'vaccination'. Is everything alright now?
If you think the CDC is concerned, you'd be wrong. Their only concern is concealing this information from the public.
some of us have a low opinion of you...
Deaths from most causes in 2020 were right in line with normal expectations. Same number of cancer deaths as the year before, slightly more heart disease deaths than the year before, etc. And if causes of death were being shuffled around in 2020, total deaths would be unchanged. Total deaths in 2020 were actually 523,000 higher than 2019, which is an over 18% jump over 2019. Normal year-over-year increases are 0.3% - 0.7%. 18% hasn't been seen since WWII.
"If I die in 2021, it will NEVER be related to a COVID vaccine. (example exaggerated to make the point)"
Is the other possibility simply that no deaths have yet been found to have been caused by a vaccine? I mean, no death certificates state that cause of death was laser blast by space aliens either. That doesn't mean there's some grand conspiracy hiding all the victims of space alien laser blasts; there simply haven't been any.
"Is it any wonder the general public does not trust the advice to vaccinate?"
164,000,000 Americans have already gotten a COVID-19 vaccine. That includes over 85% of seniors who've gotten at least one dose already. There's only about 7% who claim they'll never get it.
@9 could be true and hopefully it is. We will find out in the Fall (next cold and flu season). For now just wanting the numbers to sustain. Most everyone I know has taken a vaccine.
2aProtectsTheRest is banging the fear drum enough. Don’t help them do it...
*raises hand*
I do! I do!
I always find it fascinating when a factual statement is radiated with hey idiot trust the gubmint
The Alinaky technique combined with the whataboutisms clearly reveal a factual counter argument from their side simply does not exist.
“Shots are being given in supermarkets, drug stores, street corners, etc. and there is no way that any follow up is being done.”
Maybe no follow-up now, but you can bet that when someone gets an injection all of his personal data is entered into some system. How/if it’ll be useful to them in the future is anybody’s guess. If they’re not collecting information, that would be good in that they’d not know if you lied and said you were injected when you weren’t.
Looking back at all of this a year from now will be interesting, I think.
What time is your Zoom meeting with Fauci tonight?
Goofy.
There are no space aliens shooting lazer beams at people.
There ARE, however, tons of people injecting poison fake 'vax' into their arms.
You people and your analogies. I guess you must think we normals are idiots (I know Mrs. Mith does).
#ShoutOutToMrsMith
No, the Infection Fatality Rate of COVID-19 is between 0.65% and 1%. You're off by orders of magnitude.
"Further, now that hysteria is dying down, the real data is showing that people who do catch this virus, and who become quite sick with it (most people do not) the infection is easily treated with the chloroquinolone protocol or Ivermectin."
No, you need to talk to actual ICU physicians treating real patients. They'll laugh at your claims there. The only known effective treatment is monoclonal antibody therapy. That's why President Trump got it when he was in the hospital: because it actually works. They didn't bother giving him Ivermectin or HCQ or colloidal silver or anything else. They gave him monoclonal antibody therapy. But it's not 100%. It's likely closer to around 70%, which is wonderful, but it doesn't beat prevention.
"If you recall, Pres. Trump recovered after 3 days with Remdisvir, yet another medication that leads to rapid and full recovery."
No, he was given Regeneron and he praised it as a "blessing from God".
"So why, in heaven’s name, would you support the administration of an untested vaccine"
It's not untested. Testing began with Phase 1 clinical trials on March 16, 2020. That's well over a year ago. President Trump himself stated that the Pfizer vaccine had passed the "gold standard of safety testing". The three vaccines available in the US today have all gone through full Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3 clinical trials. Over 100,000 participants were in those trials. All of them are safe and effective. President Trump said so himself after looking at the data.
"which has a number of serious and sometimes fatal side effects"
Serious side effects are rare (anywhere from 1 in 90,000 to 1 in 1.1 million depending on which you're talking about). There are zero deaths known to have been caused by any COVID-19 vaccine anywhere in the United States.
“Every death in the United States is subject to a medical investigation to determine the cause of death.”
That’s hilarious.
why should anyone believe anything you say when you refuse to practice what your own tagline preaches???...
Only ones calling it “poison” are you and Louis Farrakhan.
Interesting company you keep. Me? I’m on board with the Trump vaccines. He has specifically demanded credit for the vaccines. Will you give it to him?
Doesn’t matter....for every person who died after recieving the vaccine the probability of death by vaccine equals 1.
Ironically, the accusation of 'Alinaky (sic) technique' also reveals a factual counter argument doesn't exist going the other way.
You may be a fine doctor, gassy, but your intellectual debate skills are not up to snuff.
When one parrots the 'government line', one can be properly accused with 'hey idiot, trust the government'.
You vaxxers completely follow the government line of 'everybody needs the vax, the vax is necessary, the vax is safe, the vax is effective', despite the MOUNTAINS of evidence dribbling out that it is neither safe, nor effective.
And yet you persist, not adjusting your arguments one bit. 2a just had the nerve to say NOT A SINGLE DEATH has been caused by the vax.
A retarded cantaloupe would know that not to be true.
And yet he persists.
Is it pride with you people? With you, I think yes. With 2a and others, I suspect more nefarious motives.
With a smattering of willful ignorance mixed in.
These days, people just want to keep their jobs, at any cost.
The mantra has changed:
See something, say nothing.
This includes healthcare professionals.
Doesn’t matter....for every person who died after recieving the vaccine the probability of death by vaccine equals 1.
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All die eventually but natural deaths normally don’t cluster around vaccination date.
About 1/3 die within the first 2 days following ‘vaccination.’ Most die within 30 days.
We've been over this. Its not my fault that brother Farrakhan is a follower of mine. My followers are legion, and I cannot be held responsible for the wrong-think of some of them.
Brother Farrakhan is correct on this issue.
Nice attempt at shaming me out of my position, pharma.
Me? I’m on board with the Trump vaccines.
No schiff, Sherlock. Its not like you don't make your sales pitch 24 hours a day, every day, like a good little government stooge.
He has specifically demanded credit for the vaccines. Will you give it to him?
I always give credit where credit is due.
Trump may live to regret his ignorant support for this derp state potion. Let's hope not.
Again, nice try attempting to shame me out of my position.
You people and your tactics. We smarts are not babies.
how do you have so much free time to spend posting on these threads when you have all those covid patients to take care of???...
I give you credit for sticking to your guns, but I really think you should reconsider your position when it pits you and Louis Farrakhan against President Trump. President Trump has a bad (wonderful) habit of making fools out of those who doubt him.
All evidence thus far points to President Trump being right about this as well.
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