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Question on Texas Electric Providers requiring security deposit after the fact.
5/23/21 | Self

Posted on 05/23/2021 3:33:45 AM PDT by fwdude

I recently helped elderly mom find a new electric provider through one of the popular website markets. The provider chosen accepted her application and began providing service. But 5 days later she received a letter from them demanding a $500 security deposit or her service would be disconnected.

Assuming this letter is legit, is it legal to demand such a hefty security deposit after service is established, instead of assessing credit risk at the time of application? Could they be trying to scam her because of the recent power problems Texas experienced hit them financially? They are saying that the deposit will be refunded after one year with interest. Mom has decent credit and hasn’t required a deposit with other utilities.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: texas; utilities
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1 posted on 05/23/2021 3:33:45 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

That wouldn’t be normal in my mind but I’d definitely review the website and paperwork filled out because it would have to be in there up front not an add on after the fact.


2 posted on 05/23/2021 3:53:46 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: fwdude

“…Assuming this letter is legit…”
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I wouldn’t make that assumption. Wouldn’t any such charges be part of their normal billing methodology?


3 posted on 05/23/2021 3:57:12 AM PDT by House Atreides
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Every time I started any utility service, where a security deposit was required, I had to pay it BEFORE getting service. Once I built up a credit history with the utility, the demand for such deposits stopped. I'm talking both AT&T and the electric company.

I used to move every 3-5 years. When I moved to a new area, the security deposit was a requirement to get service.

4 posted on 05/23/2021 4:07:16 AM PDT by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: fwdude

Happens all the time. They sign you up first then do a credit check. I couldn’t get electricity turned on without a huge deposit due (several hundred) to a low credit score.

You get the deposit back after 6 months.


5 posted on 05/23/2021 4:11:11 AM PDT by Starcitizen (So Indian H1B crybaby trash runs Free Republic moderation??? Seems so. )
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To: House Atreides

I’m not assuming the letter is legit, and the more I think about it the more suspicious I get.

The most I’ve ever seen required for a deposit, with decent credit, is $250. This usually is enough to cover one billing period in case of default.


6 posted on 05/23/2021 4:11:20 AM PDT by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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Depends on the state it seems: https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/2i4tks/my_new_electric_company_wants_a_security_deposit/


7 posted on 05/23/2021 4:12:22 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: Starcitizen

No, this doesn’t happen all the time. They do the credit check up front at the time of application and then let you know that ACCEPTANCE of a contract requires a security deposit. That gives the applicant the chance to accept or decline.


8 posted on 05/23/2021 4:13:43 AM PDT by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: fwdude

In our state (MA) this is apparently not allowed, but read your terms of service. And find out if they pay interest on the deposit. And just what is it for? What is the name of the provider?

Priority meter installs: Recent phone scams reported to PSE&G include demands for payment for past-due bills, discounts for good payment history or requiring a deposit for a priority meter installation. PSE&G does not require a deposit for meter installations. Often scammers will threaten to disconnect electric service if payment is not made immediately. These scammers often demand payment through a pre-paid cards or Bitcoin. If the victim takes the bait, the scammer provides a telephone number where a fake representative requests additional information that completes the fraudulent transaction. - https://nj.pseg.com/newsroom/newsrelease209


9 posted on 05/23/2021 4:16:41 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: fwdude

Companies in Texas aren’t regulated, so they pretty much do what they want. But call the company ans ask them if they actually sent the letter.


10 posted on 05/23/2021 4:18:32 AM PDT by rstrahan
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Many will do a soft hit credit check. I’ve had a perfect credit score for years and so don’t want a hard hit inquiry dropping it by 10-15 points and so make sure they sware by a blood oath that it is a soft hit. It’s possible that they did a hard hit after starting service and something came up differently and lower.


11 posted on 05/23/2021 4:21:49 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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If your mom gets a letter from her previous e provider stating her account is in good standing and no late payments in the last twelve months, almost all will accept that to waive the deposit requirement.


12 posted on 05/23/2021 4:30:24 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: fwdude

I’m impressed she has a choice of electric companies. That’s rare. We have absolutely zero choice in Florida. Water too. One choice.


13 posted on 05/23/2021 4:36:38 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 )
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To: fwdude

Most utilities will tell you up front or if they have a family member in good standing that will vouch (co-sign) for the person, they’ll wave the deposit.

I agree that I would call and verify and ask them for a copy of their policy. Find the phone number by going to the website, not the one on the letter in case it is a fraud.


14 posted on 05/23/2021 4:38:19 AM PDT by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: fwdude

That sounds like bait and switch.

I would definitely challenge it with the company and read them the riot act about not being up front with that information.


15 posted on 05/23/2021 4:42:22 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: fwdude

Xcel Energy in Colorado did.


16 posted on 05/23/2021 4:49:00 AM PDT by Starcitizen (So Indian H1B crybaby trash runs Free Republic moderation??? Seems so. )
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In Texas we have dozens.

Check this out. Just search for a Dallas or Houston zip to plug in.

http://powertochoose.com/


17 posted on 05/23/2021 4:51:45 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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That is amazing. I added my zip code in Florida. No results. Lol. We do not even have.two choices. You are hooked up to SECO and that’s it. Our water is the same. My water bill was 134 dollars for April. Probably the most expensive water in the country. We do have to water our grass or we’d have none. HOA would not be pleased.


18 posted on 05/23/2021 5:04:39 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 )
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To: fwdude

Deregulation is a double edged sword. The cheap rate is only guaranteed for a specific period. After that time runs out the customer is exposed to market rates.

The bills for thousands of dollars received by some customers are examples of the downside.

That happens when the electric provider doesn’t have enough power and has to buy on the open market. At that point it’s rape and pillage of the buyer (electric provider) which gets passed onto the customer.


19 posted on 05/23/2021 5:17:18 AM PDT by meatloaf
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Given the downside experienced by some customers in Texas, you’re lucky Florida didn’t deregulate.


20 posted on 05/23/2021 5:20:16 AM PDT by meatloaf
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