Posted on 05/05/2021 6:30:41 PM PDT by ransomnote
Good for you. Yes, sounds like you should keep that doc. Mine would have had a hissy.
RitaOK wrote:
“...What’s in it? No one outside a lab knows and they’re not telling. Doubt they are taking it, ...”
Page 2 in smileyface’s post lists the ingredients of the Pfizer shot:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3956682/posts?page=1853#1853
Smileyface,
Do you have screen grabs of the info sheet for the Moderna shot; can you post them?
Horrible. I am guessing those poor little girls were sold by their parents.
LOL, gotta love Ilsharko !!!
this is 100% accurate....people were told to go home and wait...for many, it was okay...for the unlucky few, it was a death sentence...
Your observation that all covid rules and guidelines are political is astute. They’re designed for the maximum control that they dare take at this point in time, but it’s clear that their measures are incremental and will become more strict and intrusive over time as we concede the necessity of each one.
While masks are being sold to the public as a safety issue, it’s only the second step in a plan to impose increasingly restrictive behaviour on the public, the first having been 6 feet of distance between us, and the third being lockdowns. The fourth step is encouragement to take the “vaccine” and the fifth is probably forced confinement, first at home, then in a government detention facility, for failure to vaccinate. Somewhere between four and six is the vaccine passport.
I’m unwilling to agree to ANY of the measures because I know my acceptance will only encourage them to impose the next step. I may very well die of covid because I refused to wear a mask, but it’s a stand I’m willing to take to prevent or retard the imposition of more harsh and freedom-limiting measures. No matter how effective or ineffective a mask might be, someone has put a frog in a pot of cold water and the mask is the heat being turned up.
That’s my 40,000 foot view.
Personally, I think the purpose of the mask -- on the other person -- is to prevent them from hocking a luggie on you. For healthy people, virus exposure through the air is probably a good thing. A small amount of virus floating in the air, once it enters your body, stimulates your immune system to create the antibodies to defend you against disease quantities of the virus. You become an asymptomatic case.
A major exposure, however, may overwhelm the body and produce significant disease before your body has a chance to develop the antibodies.
I advocate for symptomatic people to stay home, but wear a mask if they venture out in public. It's sad how many sick people -- flu or otherwise -- show up to work or school coughing and feverish because they have to, or because they think they have to. I'm hoping this scamdemic will help reduce the cultural need to share one's illness with others.
I have researched all of that. I order mine but not from China. They are 4-ply but easier to breathe in than the N-95. I wore the N-95’s off and on for 30 years at work. The blue ones are too thin. A lot of the blue ones seem to be only 3-ply. When I took my husband to the emergency room in Chattanooga recently we wore the 4-ply. They checked us at the door to make sure they weren’t the thin masks and said ours were good enough. Mine are only worn for very short periods to run into a store that doesn’t do curbside pickup or to go to a doctor. I wear it at the Vet’s office. Never for more than an hour or two. Never outside. I mostly consider the disclaimers to be like disclaimers on everything else we use.
My granddaughter works in the medical field. When I bought the 4-ply masks she came down to “test” them. She said to open one up and run water into it. She said if it holds water it will stop droplets from a sneeze or a cough. She said none will help if worn with gaps along the side. So, according to her, wearing one that doesn’t allow liquid droplets with the virus possibly in them to pass through and wearing them right really can help but she agrees that staying away from people that don’t wear one, even if you are, is better.
LOL, where I live, wearing one can provoke the fist fight. :-)
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Thanks! I’ll save that. Back when masks were first scarce, Vanderbilt hospital in Nashville put out instructions to make them according to their standards. They were begging for people to make and donate them so that their nurses and others could wear them over their blue medical masks. I sewed and sewed and donated hundreds, not only to them but to local clinics that were also begging. I used Vanderbilt’s standards and added a filter pocket. They put folded coffee filters in the pockets. LOL Once the medical mask inventory was replenished I stopped but still have the required cloth and elastic to make more.
even if the mandate fades away, I'll probably always wear a mask in the casino...too many smokers...
however, I'm not really sure how effective they are....
we have a couple of friends we play cards with...we don't wear masks and with family, no masks....
luckily we're not that social.....:)
Another very simple way, among others, to know this thing was political more than medical was the propaganda against medical treatment.
The propaganda against medical treatment.
Hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin.
Doesn’t take a genius.
Same here. I would rather take the chance it won't work while not trusting it 100% than to not wear it in a crowd and regret it.
Amen to that! We know it’s a real something but not sure what. I am pretty sure it was planned to kill but didn’t work as planned.
I am stocked up on Ivermectin and take the preventive supplements of Zinc/Quercetin, D3, C, Magnesium, and a multitude of others plus the mask when necessary.
True story....I was in Tractor Supply about a month ago. There was a sign on the door stating masks were REQUIRED. I go in because I expect people to have them on. I realized that most didn’t have them on. I turned to leave and an anti-masker “Karen” crossed the aisle and put her face right in mine and laughed. I didn’t say a word. I backed up at the same time her husband grabbed her and pulled her away from me. He apologized while she laughed and smirked. Those are the sorts I have an intense dislike for right about now.
When I see people here making fun of people that choose to wear one, calling them names like “sheeple” and “low IQ”, I tend to react due to my personal experiences. I really hope people that do that here are not like that in public. Most of those posts I skim over and probably should all of them. The “hacks” I was referring to are the ones that call names and claim science 100% says they don’t work. You can look hard enough and find anything online that will back up a belief. I’m not sure about that second claim and don’t want elderly people that are more timid told not to do something that might help. That’s all. I think most Freepers mean well even if I think they are wrong.
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What a witch to do that to you!
I see plenty of people about town wearing masks and I am not the person to judge the motivation of others. Some are elderly, others could have an illness I am unaware of or they just choose to be “safe rather than sorry”.
No matter our difference in opinion no one has the right to attack another person over a simple thing like a mask. It’s like the world has gone crazy and people hav lost the art of common courtesy.
Don’t let it get you down, we’re not all like that horrible woman
The N-95’s were hard on my asthma but the chemicals would have been deadly. I can’t advise anybody to wear those to protect against covid unless they are in a hospital working directly with covid patients. IMO, they are overkill for a virus that most people survive. If not worn properly they can cause issues. We were required to take a break every so often to remove the mask and breathe fresh air.
There are different types of medical masks and some are better than others and worn for different things. Mine are the 4-ply hospital approved. No thin blue masks for us. My homemade cloth masks with filter pockets were more efficient than those.
I’m unwilling to agree to ANY of the measures because I know my acceptance will only encourage them to impose the next step. I may very well die of covid because I refused to wear a mask, but it’s a stand I’m willing to take to prevent or retard the imposition of more harsh and freedom-limiting measures. No matter how effective or ineffective a mask might be, someone has put a frog in a pot of cold water and the mask is the heat being turned up.
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I agree with everything you said and your final paragraph sums it up well.
I am haunted by 6 words spoken by a holocaust survivor in an interview I saw many years ago. When asked why they got on the trains without putting up a fight, that dear little old man got a look in his eyes I do not have the words to describe, then hung his head, shook it slightly back and forth and said: “it was just one more thing . . .
Thank-you and I assure you that no offence was meant toward you or any others specifically. I have seen so much ugliness over masks locally that I have had a craw full and react sometimes in a negative way. LOL I am 66 with asthma but otherwise healthy. My husband is 83 and believes everything he reads or hears. I might survive covid. If I get exposed, get it, survive it, and he gets it from me and dies, how would I deal with that? If I didn’t get sick he wouldn’t have either.
I’m thinking about the elderly. If wearing the stupid masks helps even a little to protect me or protect somebody from me, it’s worth it.
I don’t have any bad feelings toward people that choose not to wear one, unless they intentionally get in my face just to harass.
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