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To: Freedom56v2

1) I think that if clinical trials have been completed and the data is made available to parents, parents should have every right to make their own individual decisions about what’s best for the health and safety of their own children. I support parental rights and parents should always be making medical decisions for their children. Not the government and not you and me. None of the rest of us have that right.

2) It depends what this means exactly, because the term has been thrown around a lot without anyone really taking the time to talk about what exactly it means. If we’re talking about some tamper-resistant mechanism to demonstrate who has chosen to get vaccinated, then I think that’s fine. It helps distinguish liars from truth-tellers. If we’re talking about some government document which the government then uses to determine who is allowed access to private goods and services, then absolutely not. In other words, if we’re talking about a tool to enable people to convey that have truly been vaccinated when they choose to do so, great. If it’s a government mandate that you have one/carry one/use one, then no, I don’t support that.


53 posted on 05/03/2021 11:31:40 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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1) I think that if clinical trials have been completed and the data is made available to parents, parents should have every right to make their own individual decisions about what’s best for the health and safety of their own children. I support parental rights and parents should always be making medical decisions for their children. Not the government and not you and me. None of the rest of us have that right.

2) It depends what this means exactly, because the term has been thrown around a lot without anyone really taking the time to talk about what exactly it means. If we’re talking about some tamper-resistant mechanism to demonstrate who has chosen to get vaccinated, then I think that’s fine. It helps distinguish liars from truth-tellers. If we’re talking about some government document which the government then uses to determine who is allowed access to private goods and services, then absolutely not. In other words, if we’re talking about a tool to enable people to convey that have truly been vaccinated when they choose to do so, great. If it’s a government mandate that you have one/carry one/use one, then no, I don’t support that.


I think it is important that all sides of an issue can be presented and discussed in open forums.

I appreciate your response. I am still trying to understand why you are so vested in the vaccines and why you have so much trust in the word of pharmaceutical companies which can and do have problems with their products (often emerging long after initial dosing) as well as trust in the word and policies of government pols and bureaucrats who have omitted information, lied, and flip-flopped.

(Deliberately reversing order of your numbered responses)

2. Your comments here are very troubling to me...
“If we’re talking about some tamper-resistant mechanism to demonstrate who has chosen to get vaccinated, then I think that’s fine. It helps distinguish liars from truth-tellers.”

a. You have promoted the “vaccines” and their high efficacy, so if you have the jab and are protected, why do you care so much if some choose not to get the jab? Why should those who are waiting or choosing not to get the jab be denied liberty if the herd is so well protected? Especially since these therapies are EXPERIMENTAL...and the citizens have no legal recourse in the event of immediate or delayed negative outcomes.

BTW, speaking of citizens...Why trust this administration when they allow tens of thousands to illegally cross the border and fly across the country without even being tested (let alone jabbed and given a “passport”)? Yet citizens are being strongly encouraged/nudged and increasingly being coerced/required to get jabbed and show proof of it to participate in the economy?

b. Tamper-resistant...Well gee, a card could be tampered with, phone apps could be fakes, so what alternatives are left? How about a Chip? Great! And all kinds of information can be added to the chip as Naomi Wolf has explained. No thanks~~If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!!

1. Parent rights? You state, “I support parental rights and parents should always be making medical decisions for their children. Not the government and not you and me. None of the rest of us have that right.”

“Not the government and not you and me. None of the rest of us have that right.” Seems to me the second paragraph is at odds with what you are promoting parental rights in the first paragraph. A “Vaccine” passport will likely ursurpe parental rights—actively or passively nudge/coerce parents into “vaccinating” their children...Right now media and businesses are nudging~~the “carrot” phase...However, the “stick” phase is emerging...Some in media are exhorting the vaccinated to shun the unvaccinated. Some businesses are requiring proof for employment, and some governmental bodies are requiring proof such as schools.

So parents’ rights are or will be infringed by school boards, state governments, and of course businesses, etc. The statistics regarding child transmission of COVID don’t warrant what Fauci is recommending regarding children being vaccinated. And if parents’ rights to choose for their child to take or not take the jab aren’t to be infringed by anyone, then why shouldn’t my rights also be protected.

I know you have stated that since President Trump initiated the Warp Speed program, we should all be supportive and patriotic and get the “vaccine.”

As I have stated, Candidate Trump was concerned about the number of vaccines recommended for babies and tots, so I seriously doubt he would have been on board for child jabs...And I doubt he would allow businesses and or government to track citizens.

I cannot fathom why you would be on board with tamper proof “vaccination” passports given the propensity of this administration and its internet allies to surveil and collect data.

IMHO none of what is happening in America 2021 is the America in which I grew up where individualism and liberty were cherished and encouraged.


55 posted on 05/07/2021 10:45:38 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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