[ProgressingAmerica]

Ping........

Just the question “How does the Northwest Ordinance influence the Underground Railroad” opens this up in an important way.

[ProgressingAmerica]

From one historian to another, I’d be curious what your thoughts are on this.

[NonValueAdded]

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Recessional of the Sons of the American Revolution:

“Until we meet again, let us remember our obligations to our
forefathers who gave us our Constitution, the Bill of Rights,
an independent Supreme Court and a nation of free men.”

Dr. Benjamin Franklin, when asked if we had a republic or a monarchy, replied "A Republic, if you can keep it."
Were we ever as close to losing it as we are now?

[FirstFlaBn]

Sanctuary cities, 19th Century edition. The northern states really didn’t mean it then when they ratified the Constitution?

How is this any different from modern day Dems (and not a few Repubs) - agree to anything, then immediately start undermining the agreement.

According to modern day Dems, if you anoint yourself as the great moral arbiter, then you don’t have to abide by any agreement you make. Maybe they got the idea from mid-19th Century Repubs.

[kvanbrunt2]

Not sure but 4th Presbyterian in philly has a tradition that they were part of the underground railroad and there is a black church a block away started in 1787

Walk on hallowed ground at Mother Bethel AME Church, the mother church of the nation’s first black denomination.

Founded in 1787,

so you think they would have just blended in.

[Sparky1776]

Back in the day when Rhode Island was split north and south, slavers in the south and Quaker farmers in the north. An interesting read.

“Plantation in Yankeeland; the story of Cocumscussoc, mirror of colonial Rhode Island”

[bert]

Harriet Tubman was a felon

Black America of at least much of it still allow felons amongst them

[ExTxMarine]

Sorry, Gen Z is destroying statues of our Founding Fathers because they were all racists and none of them ever did anything good, including writing that old, outdated Constitution-thingy!

So, I can NOT get on board with this re-writing of history! All white people in America (or said territories) from 1700-1899, were racist, rapists, murderers, and blood-thirsty...generally, they were just really bad people. And most whiteys born after 1899, are only just slightly better than the last group!

Anything “good” which occurred or came out of that timeframe was either coincidental to or in spite of the racist, rapey, murdering whites. Besides, we all know that ALL the “good” stuff from that time period was OBVIOUSLY created, invented, thought of, or otherwise the mental results of blacks, which the racist, rapey murdering whites stole from them!

[DiogenesLamp]

What did the founders think of the Underground railroad? Well they would have regarded it as a conspiracy to break Federal law, and a form of insurrection.

The US Constitution requires runaway slaves to be returned to their masters. It is written in flowery euphemisms, but that is exactly what Article IV, Section 2 says must be done.

So people deliberately trying to thwart Federal law would have been regarded by the founders as rebels and insurrectionists, and they would have locked them up in prison.

[robowombat]

I would argue none. They were all dead before it began. Jay was the only framer to have a practical interest in how slavery might be ended and his constitutional amendment process never attracted any traction. Hamilton was,as often, just posturing on the issue
The UR was pretty much just propaganda artifact anyway.

[the OlLine Rebel]

This has been a great thread, not least because many (new ones, too) are debating the OP.

[Lowell1775]

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What is the relation between the Founders and the Underground Railroad?
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Posted on 4/26/2021, 11:03:00 AM by ProgressingAmerica

[tophat9000]

Lincoln sited the Northwest ordence as evidence that congress could could expansion of slavery...