CDC VAERS and Covid-19 ‘Vaccines’: Under Reporting Adverse Events, Hiding Stroke Data?

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[2aProtectsTheRest]

"People report it right after the shots."

In clinical trials, people report all kinds of things after receiving a placebo (sugar pill or saline shot).

"This shot is experimental for a reason."

The COVID-19 vaccines available in the United States have all gone through Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3 clinical trials. Those trials had over 100,000 participants in them. The first clinical trials began over a year ago, with the first recipients getting their first doses back on March 16, 2020. The data collected from those trials and from real world application in countries around the world demonstrate that the vaccines are safe and effective.

"There is no liability to the makers for a reason."

Federal courts have not had any jurisdiction over civil cases involving vaccines since 1986. Quit acting like this is something new. That liability was shifted to the vaccine court because of all the nuisance suits trying to put vaccine makers out of business. Same kinds of nuisance suits the anti-gunners were filing.

"treatments for the virus are almost forbidden."

The only treatment that's been demonstrated to be effective is monoclonal antibody therapy, which is the same treatment President Trump got in the hospital when he had COVID-19. It's very much allowed. And it's in use. It just isn't a silver bullet that saves everyone; it merely reduces the death toll.

[ransomnote]

Here’s the lancet article: meta-analysis of coof patients. IIRC most of them were hospitalized; and of course there is a certain incidence of DVT among those hospitalized for a long time (you’re not moving your legs; in addition to a certain subset of those patients, e.g. hip and knee replacements, who tend to get DVT anyway). It was not “out in the general public”.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(20)30383-7/fulltext

But I’ve seen — forgot to save — a couple of articles from India and China, of patients who presented with DVT, who upon examination had the characteristic ground-glass on lung X-rays, yet had never manifested pulmonary symptoms.

To your point, Cathi posted this a few days ago, touching on the vaccine not all staying locally at the injection site, but disseminating throughout the body (in test animals, namely mice):

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3951851/posts
which linked to
https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n958/rr-1

This is one such article on thrombosis as a side effect of the injections.

(But there are earlier articles which talk about clotting as a manifestation of the coof, even before vaccinations were being pushed):

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7378457/

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We can say 'a' disease is present, but not which one. The PCR doesn't test for a Covid-19 virus, it tests for a strand of material found in other places such as fruit, animals, Coca Cola and Spanish water.

Once falsely 'diagnosed' with a test that has 90% false positives, then the patient is denied treatments (they may now be given antibody treatments but not at first) so the mortality rate is up.

I beleive many pneumonia cases were falsely diagnosed as Covid-19 and denied treatment. :(

But some pneumonia cases were diagnosed with both pneumonia and Covid-19 and those lucky souls were 'allowed' treatment for pneumonia and their 'Covid-19' declared 'resolved' on its own (making said patient a 'surivor' of our medical system).

The non-existent virus; and the implications (freerepublic.com)

[absalom01]

That would be between you and your physician.

The MMR vax (which was not available when I was a child) currently has a two-dose regimen.

Polio was vaccinated out of existence in the vast majority of the world. So unless you’re planning on traveling to the backcountry of Afghanistan and Pakistan, you shouldn’t need to worry about polio.

[Bob Ireland]

***I do know that from reading the post that it’s an anonymous person claiming to be a doctor claiming to have a story about a patient who has died***

Thank you for the info. As a retired news hound I more or less deduced the essentials - but did not know about the web site. Of course almost all web blog postings are anonymous and must be considered an individual view.

I did not see much on the thread that encouraged me about the involvement of VAERS. We will see. As I posted, I submitted my report.

[USAF80]

I didn’t see any broken hips under COVID-19. Everything else is a match for vaccine related things such as death, spontaneous abortions and blood clots.

[Cathi]

Actually, the post was not from an “anonymous person claiming to be a doctor claiming to have a story about a patient who has died.”

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021/04/the-cdcs-vaers-and-vaccine-complications-the-system-is-broken.html

IM Doc
April 19, 2021 at 10:56 am
As I stated in the piece – it is very critical to remember that the purpose of the VAERS is not to be 100% accurate. It, however, can be used as an early warning sign that things are amiss. It has in the past been vital in previous vaccine issues – such as Gardasil and RSV.

There were basically 20 vaccine deaths for the influenza virus in the 2020 year. If you look back for the past dozen years or so – that is right in line – a few dozen reports each year. Other sources tell me that approximately 130,000,000 doses of influenza vaccine were given in the year 2020. This too is not accurate – but is basically in line with previous years – even a bit higher than usual – there was a huge push if you recall to vaccinate everyone with the flu shot – thinking it would be a co-morbidity with COVID.

So the flu shot ( a good control cohort for another respiratory virus vaccine ) had deaths of about 20 in a dosing cohort of 130,000,000 making that ratio – 1 death in 6.5 million vaccine doses.

It is difficult to know where to cut off the COVID vaccine – because it is an ongoing process – so as of today – the VAERS is up to date as of APRIL 2. As of that day – the best info I can find is that 179,000,000 doses of COVID vaccine had been given around that date. And as of that date in VAERS we have 2700 or so vaccine related death reports. That is 1 death in 66296 vaccine administrations.

The COVID ratio for reported deaths/vaccine administered to the 2020 flu shot season with reported deaths is right at 98.

That is a startling differential. It is certainly not 100% accurate – but it is a very severe variance from a normal well-known vaccine like the flu shot. As I have indicated in the piece – the system is way behind, who knows what all is being processed at this time.

The point of the VAERS system is not to be 100% accurate. It is to be an early warning system – and to guide clinicians with their own witnessed complications and side effects.

It should be obvious to all that we have a problem.

It is my contention – that if the powers that be would just be straight and level with the American people that yes there is a huge safety problem associated with this vaccine – and we are doing everything we can to help and get us through this – that they would be light years ahead of where they are now. But that is not what they are doing.

The point is – in times past – the media would be jumping all over this – it is a huge discrepancy. Instead, the media is taking every opportunity to bash the VAERS system. It is telling a concerning story that they cannot fit into the SAFE SAFE SAFE narrative – and instead of dealing with the problem, they are bashing what system we have left.

I am certain that a young reporter could make his/her life’s reputation with this story like Woodward & Bernstein – but they seem to be nowhere to be found.

So people like me have to report this confidentially. Sorry – I know it is not ideal. The owners of this blog know exactly who I am – and I have been straightforward with them from Day 1. I cannot at this time risk being identified – we live in a nasty cancel culture. Maybe one day I can let it all be known – but not today.

I find it so interesting – that people dismiss things from anonymous sources that do not fit into their narratives – but are willing to soak it all in with things like Russiagate.

We live in an amazing world.

IM Doc
April 19, 2021 at 11:48 am
You make another point that is important.

The numbers above are just actual DEATHS.

The number of morbid complications when compared to the flu shot is equally overwhelming if not more so – now numbering into the tens of thousands. And no – we are not just talking about fever and chills.

Please go read through the case reports for yourselves.

IM Doc
April 19, 2021 at 4:15 pm
You are correct in every way in my opinion.

I am not anti-vaccination –
However – I am very much attuned to people’s risk profiles. And we should be much more clear with people that this is not a “risk-free” endeavor.

Yves Smith
April 19, 2021 at 4:50 pm
I have verified that this doctor is a practicing MD. He has written previously for this site, notably a critique of the NEJM article on the Pfizer vaccine.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/12/an-internal-medicine-doctor-and-his-peers-read-the-pfizer-vaccine-study-and-see-red-flags.html

We had a follow on discussion that included comments from other experts:

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/12/further-discussion-of-the-red-flags-in-the-pfizer-vaccine-paper-in-the-new-england-journal-of-medicine.html

He has also stated (as has one of the other medical experts we sometimes contact) that saying anything negative about the vaccines would likely lead to being fired. Outside of NYC, hardly any physicians that are actually doing medicine (as opposed to cosmetic treatments or “life extension”) are employed in large medical groups.

I have also heard accounts of complications first hand from two people who have taken the vaccine. Not readers in comments, but people I know personally. One they eventually abated, the second they haven’t yet.

Frankly I am offended that you would think we’d post something that was fabricated.

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“As a retired news hound” you can read more here about (and even see the pictures of) the highly regarded source who “verified that this doctor is a practicing MD.”

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS937US937&q=Susan+Webber+Yves+Smith&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiZu_Glsp7wAhUUO30KHXvMBnwQ1QIwEXoECBsQAQ&biw=1536&bih=754

If only the other information provided here were half as “verified”...:-)

[CodeToad]

I see our COVID propagandist is here. You claim COVID is dangerous and every death is from COVID but here you are claiming no death is from the vaccine.

[CodeToad]

“The COVID-19 vaccines available in the United States have all gone through Phase 1, Phase 2, and Phase 3 clinical trials.”

You don’t know what that means. What is the timelines for each of those phases and how could they possibly have been performed in 9 months, Sunshine?

Three women cannot have a baby in 3 months.

[CodeToad]

“I know many elderly that tested positive but had no real effect at all, other than fear.”

During last summer, the reporters in the local Denver news stations and the homosexual governor Polis were claiming all long term care facilities had stacks of bodies. The wife runs 40 long term care facilities in Colorado. She had little COVID at all and very few deaths.

The government and the press lied and continue to lie about it all.

Once the vaccine started being administered, the elderly have been dying like crazy and the government is labeling the deaths as COVID but not vaccine related.

[Bob Ireland]

***Actually, the post was not from an “anonymous person claiming to be a doctor claiming to have a story about a patient who has died.”***

:^D You don't have to prove yourself to me. First, I noted the 'IM Doc' {internal medicine} which added credibility to your post. Second, I am long retired and can do little but encourage posting on FR to create an archive. I also do some archiving for history which I share from time to time on thumb drive to interested parties.

Some of FR archived material has proved truly historical. Your post is always here to be reviewed and studied. It sounds like this VAERS issue could become a point of contention.

Hang in there. :)

[grey_whiskers]

Hi ransomnote.
That’s not ALL they’ve been hiding.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00210-5

Note the source. According the anointed, the premier journal that ever was or ever could have been.

[mewzilla]

NYS has not allowed primary care providers to offer vaccinations.

Maybe this is part of the reason why.

[hawkaw]

Great post👍

I received mine.

[ransomnote]

Doesn't it seem like there would be no visual pattern to the number of days following vaccination before a stroke occurred, if all strokes reported were random events expected to happen anyway?

The CDC says its investigating every received report to detect any patterns that should be investigated. I think I see a pattern here.....

From CDC VAERS Data Set Posted here: https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3920760/posts?page=2647#2647