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ADVERSE EFFECTS OF MESSENGER RNA VACCINES An Evidence Review from the Penn Medicine Center for Evidence-based Practice
upenn.edu ^ | December 2020 | e University of Pennsylvania

Posted on 04/24/2021 12:45:13 PM PDT by ransomnote

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To: Nifster

I had surgery in February, spent 7.5 hours on the operating table. Two weeks later I had my first dose of the Pfizer Vaccine. Two weeks after that I had the second dose. I was a bit tired after the first dose. The second dose was nothing at all.


41 posted on 04/24/2021 3:28:54 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: gas_dr

gas_dr wrote: “So we see a synopsis from December that lies. There were tens of thousands studied in phase 3. The vaccines are better performing than the phase three trials. In the academic game this is a worthless paper published from someone’s academic rank. It’s a third grader book report that essentially says nothing. And yeah I read the whole thing for the flat earthers who are going to attack me.”

You may have noticed the ‘flat earthers’ have a new line of attack. Now, they’re predicting dire consequences from the vaccine three or four years in the future. No side effects now, but boy just you wait...


42 posted on 04/24/2021 3:32:04 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: familyop; bagster
Ah...the link.

"ransomnote: ...That means We the People are Phase III experimental vaccine trial participants for which no large trials have ever been done because of harm to animals tested in trials."

The truth is that the monkeys did fine. The vaccine worked well for them.

Moderna Announces Publication in The New England Journal of Medicine of Non-Human Primate Preclinical Viral Challenge Study of its mRNA Vaccine Against COVID-19 (mRNA-1273)
Moderna
July 28, 2020 at 3:23 PM EDT

[Excerpt:]
"mRNA-1273 induced robust neutralizing antibodies and dose dependent increases in T cell responses

mRNA-1273 led to protection against SARS-CoV-2 infection in the lungs and nose of non-human primates

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Article on the web: 

Monkey Data Support Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine | MedPage Today

Same article I posted on FR, medpagetoday.com (freerepublic.com)

mRNA 'vaccines' a terrible experimental history in which they never made it past animal trials until Covid-19. In prior mRNA research 2005 and 2012, all cats injected with a platform mRNA 'vaccine' developed antibodies. When exposed to the virus, all cats died. The ability to trigger anti-body production is not sufficient to calls something a 'vaccine' since pathogens also trigger that response.

mRNA never succeeded as HIV, Hep C or other Corona virus vaccines. That's why the mRNA technology has never been FDA approved; it failed.

There have been mRNA mouse studies - they exposed the mice to SARS-1 and then sacrificed (killed) the mice to examine their lungs. Despite 'vaccination', the mice had infected lungs.

SO these 'monkey' trials are cited as proof that the experimental Covid-19 'vaccine'   is finally proving mRNA technology is safe for humans and works to protect against Covid-19. There's just so much wrong with this assertion, where to begin....

8 Rhesus macaques were given a high dose of the 'vaccine' and 8 were given a low dose of the 'vaccine'. The vaccine developers chose one of the dose levels to move forward with, meaning 8 macaques are standing in for the safety of the entire world's popuation if they used the same dose on humans, but why would they? So the macqaque study is irrelevant and all involved knew it.

8 subjects of any speciies is statistically inadquate sampling. Even if that had been tried on 8 unfortunate humans at each dose, and then used that dose on people, humans have too many variations in their response to drugs/'vaccines' etc. to make any claim that '8 is enough.'  

Further, Covid-19 is not available as an isolated sample  (also here and here) which would be required to test exposure to it, right? They used a slurry they 'think' has Covid-19 in it but they don't know as theirs contains a mixture which is likely one or more straings of  influenza and a variety of other materials.

Moreover, the 'test' for Covid-19 does not detect the presence of what researchers claim is the Covid-19 virus (see same 3 links in above paragraph). So it's unknown whether or not the animals had or did not have what the researchers claim is Covid-19 because they weren't testing for it. They could observe symptoms of influenza or other, but wouldn't know what it was. They could have tested for the flu, but given theirs is not mere incompetence, but is instead the weaponization of science against the public, I don't believe they would.

So the macaques were exposed to some version or other of Corona virus or maybe none at all. It turns out rhesus macacques never really become severely ill from SARS-1; their symptoms are mild and they recover completely. That's why they chose this type of primate. If SARS-1 was present in their slurry, it may be that 2 days is not long enough for the animals to display symptoms.

So you have researchers using a fake PCR 'test' and an unidentified slurry they claim, but can't prove, conatains at least 'some' Covid-19 - do you see the problem here. They are lying. The vaccines are China's biowarfare so I'm not surprised they claim their tiny little sample of macaques did well for TWO WHOLE DAYS following infection! That's right! When known adverse effects usually settle in at the 3 to 6 month mark, the Moderna team tested the macaques 2 days after exposure to the sludge sample and declared it a success.

For more about the inadequate trials for the mRNA's now being Phase III tested on the world, click the link:

ADVERSE EFFECTS OF MESSENGER RNA VACCINES An Evidence Review from the Penn Medicine Center for Evidence-based Practice


43 posted on 04/24/2021 3:39:26 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Wayne07

None of the mRNA ‘vaccines’ have completed large trials.
Even if this was true in December when the paper was written (and it is debatable depending on your definition of large), it is wrong now, as we have effectively done the world’s largest public trial in history, with over 100 million people having gotten an mRNA vaccine.
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Phase III testing is ongoing and they are not sharing with the public actual results in progress. Ethically, they should have stopped administration already.

At the conclusion of the PHase III, researchers are supposed to analyze data and draw conclusions. This has not been done.


44 posted on 04/24/2021 3:41:16 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: webheart

It seems that the main objection to the vaccines is the emergency use authorization rather than full out approval. All articles about covid vaccinations begin with this point. All. The other big objection has to do with aborted baby parts/cells/tissues. Iam against using aborted children as raw materials in manufacturing. It seems a single step away from cannibalism. But I have not yet seen how they are being used. You would think they were mixing aborte babies with other matarials to produce vaccines.

The actual supposed negative effects are statistically insignificant or very rare. Nothing seems to affect everyone or even a majority of people.

If you don’t want a vaccine, don’t take one. You don’t have to tell everyone your reasons. You don’t have to try t convince other people not to.
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The ‘vaccines’ are dangerous and not needed. They are killing and harming people and are being used on children and pregnant women. This is a crime against humanity and some in the Biden administration are actually aiding and abetting China’s biowarfare against the united states.

The EUA status means it’s not safe to try it on humans. The fact that after 15 years mRNA is still in EAU status is because it proved unsafe for animals. There is no indication they ‘found the problem’ and fixed it. We are intentionally being harmed by China’s ‘vaccine.’


45 posted on 04/24/2021 3:43:38 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
The often reported fatigue, muscle aches, headache, localized pain at the injection site, and chills reported among friends/family receiving the 'vaccine' were common among small trial participants in 2020.

Oh, oh, oh! Common vaccine side effects were reported with the Covid-19 vaccines! The sky is falling!

For anyone looking for "evidence" that the vaccines were rolled out without testing, nothing could be further from the truth. After a drug is tested in animals, it goes to phase 1 clinical trials--where its safety is assessed in human volunteers. A drug that has reached phase 2 or phase 3 already passed the safety studies.

Phase 1 - safety testing.

Phase 2 - dose-finding and efficacy testing.

Phase 3 - efficacy testing in a large (potentially thousands) study group.

Phase 4 - post market approval studies to look at long-term effects. For instance, in the case of Covid-19 vaccines, one goal of phase 4 would be to determine how long immunity lasts and whether and how often boosters need to be administered.

The document from UPenn is NOT a smoking gun.

My arm was sore and a bit inflamed the day after I received the Pfizer vaccine. Two days after, it was mildly painful when I pressed on the injection site. Three days later, there was no more pain. I'm getting dose #2 on Wednesday. Two weeks from Wednesday, I won't have to worry about some maskless idiot breathing on me quite as much any more.

46 posted on 04/24/2021 3:44:57 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: DugwayDuke

I know. Increasingly bizarre theories on the hope that nothing would work. I don’t get it. I am aware people may choose to not get vaccinated. But good heavens they are like the in your face libtards. They can’t just make a decision for themselves they have to get in the face of those who disagree. It’s like the trannies. I don’t really care what you do with your own genitals. But don’t force me to after with it.

I have yet to meet a single person who is a vaccine proponent who wants to hold people down and jan them against their will.


47 posted on 04/24/2021 3:46:16 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: exDemMom
For anyone looking for "evidence" that the vaccines were rolled out without testing, nothing could be further from the truth. After a drug is tested in animals, it goes to phase 1 clinical trials--where its safety is assessed in human volunteers. A drug that has reached phase 2 or phase 3 already passed the safety studies.

Phase 1 - safety testing.

Phase 2 - dose-finding and efficacy testing.

Phase 3 - efficacy testing in a large (potentially thousands) study group.
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Phases 1 and 2 are statistically insignificant and are not double blind large scale long-term testing for safety.

For example, Phase 1 'safety' is 'did 15 healthy volunteers people at each of three dose levels survive so we can go to the next step? There's no control group and, like Phase II is too small and not double-blind industry standard testing required to determine safety.

Plus, phases I and II are laughably short given mRNA technology's 'habit' of causing ADE beginning at the 3 to 6 month range. Sadly, this physician talks about the neurological damage and anaphylaxis well above Moderna's promises in his group of 900 patients.

PS: Moderna lied and falsely named Phase II as Phase III to hide the fact We the People are actually now unwitting Phase III trial participants; the world is providing the first large scale study for this technology that's failed since 2005.

MODERNA Vaccine Wreaks Havoc on Lytton BC and Local Doctor Blows Whistle! (BANNED ON YOUTUBE!)


48 posted on 04/24/2021 3:53:02 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
Tell it!

And, let's also keep in mind that....rushing the EUA meant disqualifying any other viable treatments...

Under § 564 of the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FD&C Act)....

Each issuance of an EUA requires that FDA conclude that:

it is reasonable to believe that a given product “may be effective” as an emergency countermeasure,

the known and potential benefits of authorization outweigh the known and potential risks, and ... (this statement seems contradictory.....no way to ever prove the 'potential benefits'/an unknown and the potential risks/an unknown, they are given a free pass)

no formally approved alternatives are available at the time.

That's (one of the reasons) why they slammed the door shut on HCQ.

49 posted on 04/24/2021 3:59:19 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: gas_dr

“ I have yet to meet a single person who is a vaccine proponent who wants to hold people down and jab them against their will.”

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Well, here I am.......but I only want to do that to one person and not with a Jab........I’d like to administer the vaccine to him with a 10 gallon enema.

Can you guess whommmm?? LOL


50 posted on 04/24/2021 4:05:17 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: David Chase

Oh. That would be a list three or four me.


51 posted on 04/24/2021 4:07:10 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: familyop

Something I’ve been noticing..........note who is also tagged with you.

Apparently the need for the Resident Troll because your arguments are fact based?

Seems to be happening often when confronting certain people......summoning the Jester.

#ObviousTagging


52 posted on 04/24/2021 4:11:53 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: humblegunner

Peen State is part of the University of Pennsylvania ?


53 posted on 04/24/2021 4:30:18 PM PDT by A strike ( Barr and Fauxi to Florence supermax; Roberts to Terre Haute)
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To: ransomnote

I believe Penn was instrumental in developing the mRNA vaccine process. I believe their research was related to cancer vaccines.


54 posted on 04/24/2021 4:32:34 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: Jane Long

Oh hi Jane. Since you are here is it ok if I post today? Since you seem to be the gatekeeper of schedules and draw assumptions from your own experience of being a physician, I just want to run it by you oh great keeper of schedule and free republic.


55 posted on 04/24/2021 4:36:16 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: David Chase

Problem is, he’d probably like that.


56 posted on 04/24/2021 4:36:22 PM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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To: Freedom56v2

Yup. This shitshow will never end. Sheep.


57 posted on 04/24/2021 4:36:45 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: A strike

No affiliation woth Penn State. U of P.


58 posted on 04/24/2021 4:37:44 PM PDT by Phillyred
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To: libh8er

“I got my second dose of the good stuff (pfizer mRNA vaccine) vaccine yesterday and other than very mild body ache ( no fever) I am doing and feeling and great.”

That reminds me of the guy who jumped from the top of the Empire State building and could be heard as he passed the 50th-floor yelling, “I’m doing great!”

So happy you’re doing great, too.


59 posted on 04/24/2021 4:41:37 PM PDT by icclearly
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To: David Chase
"Something I’ve been noticing..........note who is also tagged with you.

Apparently the need for the Resident Troll because your arguments are fact based?

Seems to be happening often when confronting certain people......summoning the Jester.

#ObviousTagging
"

Yes. They try to silence sane people with insults and false accusations. Feminists and homosexuals were doing the same during the '90s after invading conservative family rights forums. I don't care.

60 posted on 04/24/2021 4:47:06 PM PDT by familyop (Only here for the tales from the rubber room.)
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