Posted on 04/24/2021 7:11:44 AM PDT by Capt. Tom
IMHO the blame lies mostly with the ass kissing cruise lines and the Cruise Line Industry (CLIA) that seem to be very naïve in dealing with our CDC.
I felt restarting cruises in this country was going to be a slow motion train wreck, but this saga never seems to end. -Tom
Why is a Federal Agency blocking legal commerce without explicit Congressional legal authorization? Or is that one of those questions we are no longer allowed to ask?
I believe the legal system and its agencies are out of control of the people, and can get away with just about anything they want to do.
So agencies like the CDC, FBI, DOJ etc will do politically what they want to do. Who is going to stop them?
If Florida gets a favorable decision from a Judge, appeals and foot dragging can be expected to follow.
Florida and the Cruise Lines don't have the luxury of time. -Tom
This is a tempest in a teapot. People are in no hurry to be crammed anywhere. They are perfectly content to be herded around in face diapers.
Is the assumption here that the vaccines actually work? Although, if people are now flying in packed aircraft again, maybe cruise ships are feasible?
No, its an assertion, based on evidence.
The Duke wrote: “Is the assumption here that the vaccines actually work? Although, if people are now flying in packed aircraft again, maybe cruise ships are feasible?”
No, the assumption is airlines are necessary for business travel. Cruise ships are not.
It should be obvious that CDC, NIH, etc., are only interested in lowering the virus risk to the absolute minimum. That’s why they keep saying you have wear a mask even if you’re vaccinated.
Is there an estimate of % of cabins that have to be rented for the ship to earn a profit?
Regardless of vaccinations or the CDC, it would seem likely people will not fill those ships. So if they only fill 33% of cabins, that might mean the ship sails at a loss, and if it’s all open, there will be no stimulus money to keep the industry going.
This could be RICO...
You must read reports carefully re: airlines.
The hype report is “highest TSA screenings since March 2020!!!”
The truth is TSA screenings still less than 1/2 2019 levels for a given day/weekend.
DeSantis is a fighter... don't count him out. Yeah, they'll drag their feet and DeSantis will pick them up and shove them across the finish line. He's taking this one personally.
the planes never stopped flying...
A good test for DeSantis, right now I would take him over Trump in 2024.
Owen wrote: “Regardless of vaccinations or the CDC, it would seem likely people will not fill those ships.”
You might be surprised at the number of people who can’t wait to get back on board. check out cruisecritic.com, one of the largest social media sites for cruises.
Regardless of vaccinations or the CDC, it would seem likely people will not fill those ships. So if they only fill 33% of cabins, that might mean the ship sails at a loss, and if it’s all open, there will be no stimulus money to keep the industry going.
Royal Caribbean has weighed in on that question. See below. -Tom
"Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. Chief Financial Officer Jason Liberty answered by saying the company could break even with use of fewer, but newer cruise ships, in lieu of older ships.
"For our newer ships, you need about 30 percent load factors to kind of break even. And then they skew to about 50 percent load factor on onto our older ships."
What's the CDC going to do?
How many divisions do they have...?
I think DeSantis would have a better chance then PDJT. He’s young, has military service, and has been way ahead of other governors in dealing with Covid. Not to mention, the white-hot loathing and hatred of PDJT by a lot of people, especially the LSM.
The most critical thing is he has a team working with him as governor he can bring with him and hit the ground running.
That’s interesting. What is the breakdown of costs? Labor? Fuel? Advertising? How much of the total is each?
30% or even 50% sounds a little bogus. In the immortal words of Bezos and Amazon — Your margin is our opportunity.
If someone is getting 50% margin, someone else is going to undercut them
I’ll go tomorrow if they open up. I would love a vacation in the sun. However any requirement for face masks or distancing would be a deal breaker
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