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Indiana prosecutor: We decided against red-flag hearing for FedEx shooter
Hot Air ^ | Apr 19, 2021 1:40 PM ET | ED MORRISSEY

Posted on 04/19/2021 10:52:35 AM PDT by Hojczyk

How did the mass murder perpetrator in last week’s shooting at a FedEx facility in Indianapolis have the ability to buy his firearms? Both local police and the FBI had intervened a year earlier after his family warned law enforcement about his mental health, and police had seized his shotgun at that time. Shouldn’t that have initiated a hearing under Indiana’s “red flag” law to bar Brandon Scott Hole from acquiring replacement firearms?

It might have, the county prosecutor told the media today, had they pressed the red-flag case. Instead, Ryan Mears said, they stopped at the confiscation because prosecutors didn’t want to press their luck in court:

A former FedEx employee who shot and killed eight people at a FedEx facility in Indianapolis never appeared before a judge for a hearing under Indiana’s “red flag” law, even after his mother called police last year to say her son might commit “suicide by cop,” a prosecutor said Monday.

Authorities believed they had done what they needed to by seizing the pump-action shotgun from Brandon Scott Hole in March 2020, Marion County Prosecutor Ryan Mears said.

Mears added, “I think this case illustrates the limitations” of the law. At the very least, one can conclude that this case illustrates the limitations of prosecutors. Essentially, they created the worst of all worlds in this outcome, even if their intentions were good. The decision to stop the red-flag process left them in possession of Hole’s property indefinitely, which is at some point an unconstitutional seizure without due process. On top of that, the failure to follow through on the threat allowed Hole to acquire more firearms, which made the confiscation useless anyway.

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To: Red Badger

If anyone has to wonder: This Ryan Mears guy is a Rat.


21 posted on 04/19/2021 11:23:36 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Hojczyk

On the one hand, I have to commend the court for its restraint for not imposing a “Red Flag” ruling. The Red Flag laws are bad laws, and should be repealed as soon as possible.

That said, there were a dozen other mechanisms that should have swung into action to constrain this particular subject long before he attained the opportunity to attack innocents.

It’s not “the gun”, it’s the person that needs to be dealt with, and that starts with admitting that “care in the community” is an absolute failure, and that people as disturbed as this guy should be institutionalized for their own protection not to mention the protection of society.


22 posted on 04/19/2021 11:28:56 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Hojczyk

Did you catch that little tid bit?

“... left them in possession of Hole’s property indefinitely,”

IOW, it was their PLAN to take his proprty, without due process, and never give it back. Now if I take your property, without due process, and never intend to give it back, that is call theft. So they just flat up STOLE his shotgun from him.


23 posted on 04/19/2021 11:33:07 AM PDT by taxcontrol (You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: 4Runner
We were told by the sheriff’s deputy that our “neighbor” trespassing on our lot and deliberately and with malice destroying our landscape beds and borders was really a “civil matter”, then told us to get a lawyer.

But if you had "laid for" your neighbor and jumped him in the dark off-camera and beaten him to a pulp, the popo would have been ALL OVER you.

24 posted on 04/19/2021 11:34:18 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: WildHighlander57

The left want all existing gun laws to fail. That’s why they don’t enforce them. They want to be able to say “guns laws don’t work. Therefore we need total confiscation.”


25 posted on 04/19/2021 11:41:30 AM PDT by Calvin Cooledge
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To: kiryandil

Not so much in Louisiana.


26 posted on 04/19/2021 11:44:35 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox )
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To: WildHighlander57
Red flag laws don’t work.

Facilities for the mentally ill do.

I've been saying the same thing for years.

There weren't many mass shootings back when crazy people got to live in the county home.

27 posted on 04/19/2021 11:47:17 AM PDT by Augie
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To: Hojczyk
Authorities believed they had done what they needed to by seizing the pump-action shotgun from Brandon Scott Hole

By what legal authority did they do that? Would that same authority allow them to add him to the NICS list of prohibited persons?

28 posted on 04/19/2021 11:49:21 AM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Skywise

because the FBI used him , groomed him, to be their next shooter in the ongoing saga of we need to confiscate all weapons.


29 posted on 04/19/2021 11:50:10 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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To: KeyLargo
he question is why the original confiscation didn't appear in the background check for when he purchased his next gun.

Because the police stole the shotgun and the records would be "inconvenient".

What I want to know is, where is the shotgun?

30 posted on 04/19/2021 11:50:59 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck ( COVID lockdowns are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic )
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To: Hojczyk

Load up that confiscated weapon with birdshot and let the victim’s families examine and hold the weapon they kept from the mentally ill man while the prosecutor stands 8 feet away mooning them.

If the prosecutor gets more than 8 pellets in his rump, he’s fired.


31 posted on 04/19/2021 12:02:47 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: lee martell; Paladin2
FedEx Shooter Brandon Hole Was Obsessed With ‘My Little Pony’: Report

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3951853/posts?page=46

Check out my post at 56

32 posted on 04/19/2021 12:04:49 PM PDT by CtBigPat (The period of Crisis is ending. Now comes Normalization.)
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To: Hojczyk
Ryan Mears
33 posted on 04/19/2021 12:05:48 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Hojczyk
Another failure on the part of law enforcement....and nothing to do with Cops!

AS USUAL!!

34 posted on 04/19/2021 12:07:54 PM PDT by high info voter
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To: CtBigPat

My question remains open.


35 posted on 04/19/2021 12:09:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Essentially, they created the worst of all worlds in this outcome, even if their intentions were good.

Funny how that happens so often.

36 posted on 04/19/2021 12:22:01 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Jeffrey Epsteins last words "I am not committing suicide".)
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To: Paladin2

Nobody seems to know. He was probably just a pissed off bullied nerd.


37 posted on 04/19/2021 12:25:11 PM PDT by CtBigPat (The period of Crisis is ending. Now comes Normalization.)
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To: Hojczyk

What this story demonstrates is the intentional limitations of the red flag laws. They are meant to disarm those law-abiding Americans of firearms legally held with no intent of using them wrongly, in favor or inspiring such mass shootings as this, all in order to pimp more egregious gun control policies. Nobody is fooled by the non-enforcement of red flag laws against whom the authorities are confident will carry out mass murder. Someone should notify red flag cheerleader Dan Crenshaw of this insidious plan, because he seems to have been taken for a ride.


38 posted on 04/19/2021 12:46:28 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: WildHighlander57

Must not put them in chains in any facility. Could be potential dim voters and/or being helpful for gun controlling ‘events’.


39 posted on 04/19/2021 1:03:25 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Hojczyk
Essentially, they created the worst of all worlds in this outcome, even if their intentions were good.

Sums up every single Liberal initiative in history

40 posted on 04/19/2021 1:07:07 PM PDT by Teacher317
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