Posted on 04/15/2021 5:48:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Some 5,800 Americans have contracted COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated against the virus that causes it, federal officials said April 15.
The Americans contracted the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, which causes COVID-19, despite getting both doses of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine, or the single-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) told The Epoch Times via email.
Of the 5,800 fully vaccinated people who were confirmed as so-called breakthrough cases, nearly 400 required treatment at hospitals and 74 died.
A little over 40 percent of the infections were in people 60 years of age or older, and 65 percent were female. The CDC declined to make a state-by-state breakdown available, though it has developed a national database where state health department investigators can enter, store, and manage data for cases in their jurisdiction.
The figures were for cases through April 13.
More than 78 million people have been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 in the United States as of April 15.
“To date, no unexpected patterns have been identified in case demographics or vaccine characteristics,” the CDC stated.
“COVID-19 vaccines are effective, and are a critical tool to bring the pandemic under control. All of the available vaccines have been proven effective at preventing severe illness, hospitalizations, and deaths. However, like is seen with other vaccines, we expect thousands of vaccine breakthrough cases will occur even though the vaccine is working as expected.”
CDC Director Rochelle Walensky stated during a congressional hearing on April 15 that the causes of the breakthrough cases are being probed. “Some of these breakthroughs are, of course, failure of an immune response in the host. And then some of them we worry might be related to a variant that is circulating. So we’re looking at both,” she said.
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Again with people just pulling numbers out their backsides. Post data , ok I will from the world’s foremost authority on epidemiological studies.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
In the USA the death rate is 1.8% for all.age groups and significantly higher for the 65+ cohorts. But don’t take my word for it go to the world’s authority on the matter.
So 1.27% is already better than the all age average. And since most of the breakthrough cases in the hospital’s and dead are 65+ that 1.27% since 3 to 8%+ for the various 65+ cohorts any way you slice it that’s an improvement. What’s even more telling is 78+ million have the protection and only 5000 ish had a break through and less than 100 died. Put another way mathematically if 78 million had been exposed positively and all of them with no human on earth having natural immunity everyone exposed must mount a full immune system response with 1.8% of all Americans lossing that response. 1,400,000 is 1.8% of 78 million. Let those numbers sink in 70 deaths vs the possibility now removed from 1.4 million deaths. Antivaxers are flat earthers it’s that simple. They get what they deserve a slow painful death behind a tent alone without being able to have family touch them. I have witnessed two of those deaths antivax stupidity should burn and burn good.
As predictable as the sunrise.
“According to this its 5800 of 78 million.
That’s 99.99% effective.
At the present time.”
Not taking the vaccine and most other people has been 100% effective for me so far.
CDC numbers are imaginary.
Seems we have unlikely comrades in this fight against the government.
Or not get the vaccine and still live life as if there was no virus.
Take a trip to Brazil you have a 66% probability of getting their version of covid again.
Here some peer review science to prove that. Also note that the study area had 70+% positive exposure to the original strain which should have given the much lauded here immunity. Guess what it didn’t the new strain is burning through the prior infected with a vengeance. Again I bring science to the plate not stuff pulled off a blog or made up.
https://www.thelancet.com/article/S0140-6736(21)00183-5/fulltext
I’m fully vaccinated.
My odds are far better than those who have chosen not to get vaccinated.
“Let those numbers sink in 70 deaths vs the possibility now removed from 1.4 million deaths.”
Impressive to anyone with a mind of their own.
You can get immunity by recovering from the virus, or you can get it from the vaccine...
One way is much, much safer.
“ I’m fully vaccinated.
My odds are far better than those who have chosen not to get vaccinated.”
I had Covid.
I’ll put my odds against getting it again (though it wasn’t really all that bad...and I’m over 60) against yours any day.
Given the option, I’ll take the vaccine over getting covid.
Thanks. I had the mods delete it as some html was miss behaving.
Thanks. Sometimes we need a heads up.
It hurt my eyes trying to read it on my cellphone.
Psalm 91 has me covered.
“Not taking the vaccine and most other people has been 100% effective for me so far.”
Me too.
What does that have to do with the topic?
If you’re trying to make a point, about 10% of all Anericans have been infected.
So it’s 99.99% vs 90%. That’s about a thousand times less likely to get it if vaccinated.
“I’m thinking that there’s plenty of things that might have killed this group if it wasn’t Covid, 60+ is where you know you’re experiencing the effects of genetics and life habits after a long life. Its terrible, but its a reality for some.”
I went back for my 40th high school graduation celebration. I was only 17 when I was graduated. It was amazing how much older and frailer some of those, who were only 2 years older. About 5% of the class was dead by then. Smoking, alcohol and poor diets were obvious. They allowed any graduate of earlier years to attend, the aging process was/is an evil bitch for many of us.
10 years later, most of us were close to or over 70, most of the survivors were not in any great shape.
If they had studied the terminal/fatal impact of air/water/gravity on that class, the death rate would have been off the wall.
“ Given the option, I’ll take the vaccine over getting covid.”
Having had it, I am not in a hurry to take a vaccination. If you haven’t had it, I understand your choice.
A 99.9% survivable virus vs an experimental vaccine, most of which use RNA rather than weakened viruses....decisions decisions.
well, people your age don’t have a 99.9% survivability. Though at this point, with so many immune either by the vaccine or by infection, it doesn’t matter much whether you get “the shot”.
I’m a little older and am only getting “the shot” because I’ll be visiting relatives in a metro area.
I’m not getting it in the VA system because they’ll MAKE me take the second shot and I don’t intend to if I have more than a very mild reaction to the first.
I’m not impressed by it but there is a theory that a mild infection doesn’t give sufficient immunity. Iffy, but worth mentioning.
But anyway, in the position we’re in now it’s not significant if people vaccinate or not. It’s no big deal. Maybe come Fall it will matter but it’s not Fall now- it’s not even Summer yet. Let’s enjoy.
I’ve largely ignored the virus for the last year. And luckily, I’ve lived in a place where I can.
But now, no busybody jerk has any reason for complaint. If they are worried, they should get the vaccine. I’m in my 60s and saw no harm in getting it. It will improve my odds. Slightly. I’m ex-military and been vaccinated for all sorts of weird stuff and long since stop caring about getting shots.
But the beauty of the vaccine is that it obviously should be totally personal choice. Take it if you want and your odds are outstanding. Skip it if you want, and IF - IF, mind you - there is any down side, only you will pay the cost.
There is no reason for anyone to care if anyone else got the vaccine or not. And there is no reason for ANY place to be shut down or have mask mandates or ANYTHING. By now we all ought to be 100% open again!
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