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1 posted on 04/15/2021 7:49:08 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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A tank that appeared too late


2 posted on 04/15/2021 7:50:59 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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Read the book last summer before visiting Cologne and retracing the battle over the current terrain. Very powerful and surprisingly emotional (as a former tanker). Definitely will see the movie.


3 posted on 04/15/2021 8:03:45 AM PDT by Thunder 6
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I just finished reading a book about Tankers in WWII. Most books cover the strategies or the tactics or the equipment. This book covered the men....and women. The Russians had females in their tank crews. Not too many, but still it was news to me.

Lots of interesting information. The change in British Officers assigned to Armor units as the war went on. The early Officers were from the horse cavalry and the elite schools.


5 posted on 04/15/2021 8:06:22 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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Just bought the Audible version.


6 posted on 04/15/2021 8:21:38 AM PDT by jimtorr
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Our 75mm’s were great.

Nazi’s proved that a good direct fire weapon with enough of a distance advantage worked. When all guns are good for a mile or more, armor and tactics will Winn the day.


10 posted on 04/15/2021 8:57:39 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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So is this movie just now coming out? Because the video you posted is two years old.


13 posted on 04/15/2021 9:02:08 AM PDT by Little Pig
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I think in that engagement the M4 might have done just as well as the Pershing. It was a shot into the side of Tiger, which was not nearly as heavily armored as the front. The German tank crew survived, and reported that they hesitated to fire because the Pershing did not look like an Allied tank.

When the M4 flanked a Tiger, it could fire into its vulnerable side. The M4 was agile and very reliable. The Tiger was basically a heavily armored antitank gun, and it was effective in that roll, but it was mechanically unreliable. The Tigers were mostly deployed in defense, firing from defilade and in ambush. In open fields, like in Holland, their long range could be decisive, but so was any antitank gun. In close quarters the M4 might not hold its own, but it was a very formidable threat to any German tank.

The only Pershing that was destroyed in Europe was the victim of a Nashorn firing from defilade at 300 yards.


14 posted on 04/15/2021 9:24:54 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ever notice no "champion of the working man" ever died of overwork?)
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I thought the legendary tank duel was between a Pershing and a King Tiger, not a Panther.


22 posted on 04/15/2021 11:56:17 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Count Rostov "The tyranny of indistinguishable days.")
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