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To: Homer_J_Simpson; DiogenesLamp
"The War Commenced: The First Gun Fired by Fort Moultrie Against Fort Sumpter – 2-3"

"CHARLESTON, Friday, April 12.
The ball has opened. War is inaugurated."

Please notice, there's no disagreement between news reports from Charleston and New York that firing on Fort Sumter is the beginning of civil war.

Nobody then claimed that war actually began somewhere else, at some other time or from some other events.
Confederates firing on Fort Sumter was the beginning of war, just as was Pearl Harbor and 9/11/2001.

10 posted on 04/13/2021 8:31:02 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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To: BroJoeK

“Nobody then claimed that war actually began somewhere else, at some other time or from some other events.”

Indeed.

The final point of nuance: was the island CSA property (from which Union troops were to be driven from), or USA property (to be seized as a threat to an important harbor)?


15 posted on 04/13/2021 10:01:46 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (The claim of consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels.)
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To: BroJoeK
Nobody then claimed that war actually began somewhere else, at some other time or from some other events.

That's because the propaganda was put out by the same lying sources from Washington DC and New York that recently said there was a massive extremist racist riot that happened in Washington DC January 6th and was a massive threat to the existence of the government while actual murders, arsons, robberies and assaults in Portland and elsewhere were "Peaceful protests."

When the massive lie machine starts it's wheels turning, most people are going to believe it.

I didn't even know that Lincoln had sent a fleet of warships against the confederates in Charleston for the vast majority of my life. I had never heard anyone mention this little detail. I can only conclude this is because they wanted to spread a single narrative, that the Confederates started it, and "Great Leader" was entirely blameless in triggering the war.

And now I know that was just a lie.

So why are they lying? Same reason they are lying about the Washington DC "riots" of January 6th. To maintain their power.

18 posted on 04/13/2021 1:34:50 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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