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To: SkyDancer
The only "invasion" involving fort Sumter was when Anderson seized it in the middle of the night after spiking and burning the cannons in Fort Moultrie.

The first invasion was when the Union army invaded Virginia and fought at the first battle of Bull run. Again, it was the Union army invading the Southern states, not the other way around.

14 posted on 04/12/2021 4:27:33 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp; SkyDancer; rockrr
Diogeneslamp: "The only "invasion" involving fort Sumter was when Anderson seized it in the middle of the night after spiking and burning the cannons in Fort Moultrie."

As authorized, Union Maj. Anderson simply moved his troops from one Union fort to another -- nothing "invasion" about it.

Diogeneslamp: "The first invasion was when the Union army invaded Virginia and fought at the first battle of Bull run.
Again, it was the Union army invading the Southern states, not the other way around."

That's Rubbish!

  1. The first invasions were many Confederate seizures of major Union properties -- forts, ships, arsenals, mints, etc.

  2. The first battle was the Confederate assault on Union Fort Sumter, forcing its surrender.

  3. After Fort Sumter there were nine battles with over 1,000 total casualties before Bull Run/Manassas.

  4. Of those nine other pre-Bull Run battles, five were Confederate invasions of the Union, producing about 700 Confederate casualties.
    Four others in Virginia produced about 100 Confederate casualties.

  5. In all of 1861 there were 35 named battles, 25 of them Confederate invasions of the Union producing about 1,000 more Confederate casualties than the 10 battles fought in Confederate states.
    1861 was a war of Confederate aggressions against the United States.
Diogeneslamp on the SS Baltic at Charleston Harbor: "Armed with several hundred riflemen and artillerymen as well as munitions fuses etc.
Troop carrier with weapons and munitions."

But of no threat whatsoever to the thousands of Confederate artillerymen surrounding & doing battle on Fort Sumter to force its surrender.

18 posted on 04/13/2021 6:38:07 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...) )
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