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To: sweetiepiezer

The Drug companies can’t fully vouch for the vaccines.
Moderna had 5 people take the injection in their EUA phase three trial, the results of which the FDA approved EUA.
Moderna’s actual Phase 3 have 30k people for 25 months...starting 12/2020

So those who have taken the shots are really the drug companies’ “trials”.


1,802 posted on 04/14/2021 12:42:15 PM PDT by stylin19a (Golf is a game invented by the same people who think music comes out of a bagpipe.)
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To: stylin19a

My S.O. has an employee who was admitted to the hospital with suspected blood clots today. About a week ago she had the J&J “jab.”

It’s happening. Just not in a good way.

Is there going to be a wave of hospitalizations due to the shots, even if many are for observation only? Are these going to be coded as Covid admits somehow, someway and reported as such?

This young doctor says he is not going to get the vax because he has antibodies for Covid and he is a afraid of a hyperimmune (not sure if my terminology is correct) response because he is young and fit.

Why I HAVEN’T yet taken the COVID VACCINE: A Scientific Debate
922,001 views•Mar 30, 2021

Dr. Suneel Dhand - MedStoic Lifestyle Medicine
52.6K subscribers
I am a doctor that recommends routine vaccinations to all my patients. Vaccinations have been amazing for humanity. Here’s my story and unique concern, and I want to throw this question out to an open SCIENTIFIC DEBATE. Would you get the vaccine if you were me?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBAHRgtuI4I


1,813 posted on 04/14/2021 1:18:25 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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To: stylin19a

https://www.medicdebate.org/files/SARS-CoV-2%20Prion-Like%20Domains%20in%20Spike%20Proteins%20Enable%20Higher%20Affinity%20to%20ACE2.pdf

A good friend of mine responds to the above link:

In this detailed study, posted March 2020, Drs. George Tetz and Victor Tetz performed a detailed study of the prion-like domains in spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 and a comparison of SARS-CoV-2 to other human-pathogenic β-CoVs.

This is how good researchers do this work. They design the experiments, perform the experiments and supervise data analysis. Then then analyze the data and write the manuscript that goes to peer review. They do not speculate as to how the prion like domains in spike protein got there.
Per their abstract goal, “our findings can contribute to a better understanding of the pathogenicity of SARS-CoV-2 and will help to uncover new targets for the development of drugs and vaccines based on the prionogenic properties of particular viral protein regions”

Some researchers will simply present their data, then others take the information and speculate how the prion like domains got there. There have been many papers/reports suggesting virus manipulation in that Wuhan lab.

I wonder now if Dr. Tetz’s data was used to develop these various “vaccines”? They said there was no financial remuneration to do their study, but did they get paid by Pfizer/Moderna etc to use this data? These companies are not releasing any information re how these vaccines were created and what studies they used. They say it is proprietary.

A friend of mine wondered if there had been industrial espionage against Johnson and Johnson in that Baltimore plant, when parts of JJ got mixed up with AstraZeneca and millions of vials had to be discarded. Then CDC puts a pause on JJ because of 6 rare cases of clots.

What we are not being told is the amount of complications that have resulted from Pfizer and Moderna vaccines. Someone has developed a blog detailing all the complications, but they say it has been very hard to get the companies to release this data.

I watched the CDC news conference yesterday and one doctor said they felt they had been “rushed” to quickly get these vaccines out into the public. In other words, they are beginning to step away, as more and more complications occur from these vaccines. I go back to my thought that when this happens, Pres. Trump will get blamed. He put out a statement yesterday about the JJ “pause”. If I were advising him, I would tell him to stop talking about how quickly he got these vaccines out and taking credit for doing so. I think this will come back to haunt him.

Then I listened to Dr. Richard Fleming, physicist-nuclear cardiologist, on Bannon’s war room yesterday. He tends to “shoot from the hip” so to speak and he does not give any evidence to support his comments.

He issued a dire warning that experimental covid vaccines are not effective, but could cause Mad Cow disease. ( refuted by many researchers). I have not seen enough reports to support this thesis, as there are many corona animal viruses out there already. Those saying this may believe that the vaccine activates an innate corona virus already present in an animal.

“I’m not anti-vax,” Fleming told War Room, Tuesday. “I’m just anti-bad medicine.”

Fleming says the vaccine companies own data, from Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson, all show their vaccines make zero difference in stopping covid. The Emergency Use Authorzation data “shows there is no difference.”
“It’s just random chance,” he said. However, the risks are high.
“In the animal model, they develop spongiform and Mad Cow disease,” Fleming said. “We also know 2 weeks afterwards they develop…what causes Alzheimer’s and neurological disorders.” ( also under debate by many).
Fleming warned the effects could take a year and half to show in humans.
Fleming, who in the 1990s discovered inflammation causes cardiovascular disease, said man-made spike proteins in the vaccines also cause inflammation. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine was pulled for its link to blood clots in women.
The vaccines have “no statistically significant benefit,” Fleming said, but cause “inflammation and blood clotting, Lewy bodies [associated with dementia], Mad Cow disease, and nothing to benefit.”

Fleming said the Biden regime should call for immediate reevaluation of “whether there’s any demonstrated efficacy” of the vaccines, “because there’s not.”
“Secondly, what are the potential consequences of having already vaccinated a substantial number of individuals in this country?” Fleming said.

Fleming also called for a full review of the people who were involved in coronavirus gain of function research. Dr. Anthony Fauci outsourced the National Institutes of Health gain of function research to the Wuhan Institute of Virology using taxpayer dollars.

So what is happening is that speculation is rampant amongst many researchers as the companies are not releasing their findings, and we are being lied to.

I continue to be very disappointed by the polarization in my profession and how political so many have become.


1,913 posted on 04/14/2021 6:05:39 PM PDT by rodguy911 ((FreeRepublic home of the free because of the Brave---Where we go One))
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