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To: grey_whiskers
Now I know you’re either amn idiot or utterly dishonest.

There is a saying : "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Drink deep or taste not the Pierian spring."

The problem is people such as yourself who do not understand biology and are simply looking for confirmation bias. Have a nice day.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/antivaxxers-misrepresent-a-study-to-falsely-claim-that-covid-19-vaccines-cause-cancer/

124 posted on 04/06/2021 5:05:17 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: libh8er

I sent a letter to the legal department of the miss information you gave.


125 posted on 04/06/2021 5:18:14 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: libh8er

Thank you very much for the posted article and all of you’re information.

There is a silent majority that agree with but avoid engaging with medically uneducated or conspiracy types.
Of course there are those that are extra special and are both.

I saved your link to reread and use as reference.

Have a great evening.


127 posted on 04/06/2021 6:05:22 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: libh8er
I understand biology, I was addressing the trite oversimplification ("RNA is not DNA and cannot change the DNA").

The key part of the article YOU quoted just now, which you should have started off with, is this:

"Second, the mRNA in the Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech vaccines does not undergo any splicing, both of which occur in the nucleus. The mRNA sequences in these vaccines is a complete mRNA sequence for the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and needs no splicing before transcription. Indeed, it really wouldn’t make any sense at all to include in a vaccine an mRNA that requires splicing, as that’s an extra step where things could go wrong and that doesn’t provide any countervailing advantage to make it worthwhile to do. Basically, when you are trying to get eukaryotic cells (as in human cells) to produce a protein from an RNA, keeping the design of the mRNA as simple as possible is best. Use the RNA sequence encoding the protein you want to produce, tack on whatever regulatory sequences to the coding sequence in order to drive expression of the protein, and get as much of the RNA into the cytoplasm to encounter as many ribosomes and churn out as much protein as possible before the RNA, unstable molecule that it is, inevitably degrades. In other words, no splicing or truncated proteins, even if the proteins being produced were even relevant to cancer, which the coronavirus spike protein is not."

Mayr implied that the mix of splicing vs. adyenlation could lead down the road to problems with the mRNA --> problems with the encoded protein --> proteins don't do their usual anti-cancer job --> cancer.

Posting something that says "DNA doesn't mix with RNA" isn't an accurate refutation; your relying on that, made you look bad.

If you'd bothered to say, "Mayr posited that errors in preprocessing the mRNA and shuffling it in and out of the nucleus, may lead to interference with proteins, and thence to cancer; but the mRNA injections come "ready made" and don't need to make it to the nucleus; and the effect of interfering with proteins is in general limited to the proteins encoded for specifically by that mRNA, so no biggie" you wouldn't have got the response you did.

= = = = = = = = = = =

The other issues with the jab then, are the observed effects among people who have already received it; the observed issue 10 years or so ago among animal models of mRNA injections, and what sounded like antibody-dependent enhancement after injection (*) some people brought this up long before the vaccines as a putative mechanism for the "walk down the street and fall down dead" supposedly seen in Wuhan; and high-ups who used to be at Pfizer and other places, warning about side effects and resemblance of the spike protein to other human proteins (again, early reports from China long before vaccines, indicated the virus attacked the testes, and I think it was someone at Pfizer who noted the *resemblance* of the spike protein to syncytin-1 in the placenta). The problem with the deBOOONKers is that they are too eager to demonize ALL questions about the virus, and have ZERO compunction about lying through their teeth in order to discredit opposition.

(For example, compare https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/10/blog-posting/no-pfizers-head-research-didnt-say-covid-19-vaccin/

"Humans do have a protein called syncytin-1, which is critical in developing the placenta during pregnancy, Stockwell said in an email. "Theoretically, an immune response against this protein could cause increased risk of a failed pregnancy."

But if the claims in the blog post were accurate, that would mean that pregnant women who catch COVID-19 would also become infertile, he said. No increased infertility or pregnancy loss has been observed in women with COVID-19. "

Note that? The person from Pfizer raised a possibility and couched it as a theoretical RISK. But the deBOOOOOONKERs vastly misrepresent what he said, jerk off into their own mouth, and ignore that real studies have been done on real COVID and pregnancy (which is a proxy for artificial inoculation, of course, for a number or reasons).

to, for example, this from Harvard: https://hms.harvard.edu/news/placental-protection

First author Elizabeth Taglauer, an HMS instructor in pediatrics and a placental immunologist at Boston Children’s, and senior author Elisha Wachman at Boston University School of Medicine and Boston Medical Center followed pregnant women with COVID-19 and studied a variety of maternal and fetal samples, including placentas discarded after delivery.

The team's findings indicate that SARS-CoV-2 can only partially penetrate the placenta.

Even when babies were uninfected, the researchers detected SARS-CoV-2 spike protein in the placental villi, specifically in the outermost layer, which directly contacts the mother’s blood and is the first barrier the virus must cross to get from mother to fetus.

The researchers also found that ACE2, the primary receptor for SARS-CoV-2, was present in this placental layer at lower levels in infected than in uninfected mothers. (emphasis mine) Taglauer plans to investigate whether the placenta downregulates ACE2 as a protective measure against infection.

...In other words, politifuct is making up strawmen about what WOULD happen™ without looking at the evidence of what DOES happen. But when anyone else raises a question, they shout them down, while overstating what was said.

None of this covers, btw, why there have been mandatory lockdowns for a virus with a cumulative fatality rate of 0.2% or whatever, mostly among the obese and/or elderly; why there have been conflicting advice on masks and fomite transmission; why fatality rates were artificially inflated by mixing "died with a positive test for the virus" vs. "died OF the virus"; why the inventor of the PCR reaction warned against its being used as a diagnostic; why apparently there are no samples extant of pure virus (which is presumably why an mRNA injection was pursued instead of a true vaccine); why the recommendations on "you must take the vaccine even though it will neither protect you nor others" (there are well-substantiated reports emerging of severe side effects from the vaccine, in otherwise healthy, asymptomatic people, as well as people who have received both rounds of the injection suffering subsequent COVID-19 infection); let alone various countries / heads of state declining / forbidding different formulations (e.g. Germany forbidding Astra-Zeneca, IIRC); nor the suppression of Ivermectin / HCQ and the deliberate lying-through-their-foul-teeth about "Trump said to drink bleach"...

Add all the atypical and repressive behaviours on the part of the public officials and public health authorities, together with the low fatality rate (and Wuhan is doing just fine now, thank you), and it is natural to ascribe malificient motives to ALL of their actions. Which then includes the vaccines.

128 posted on 04/06/2021 6:06:34 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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