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Study: 1 in 4 hospitalized patients with most severe form of COVID-19 will die
UPI ^ | APRIL 2, 2021 | Brian P. Dunleavy

Posted on 04/04/2021 12:12:01 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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Infectious Disease Ping - covid-19 in the USA - hospitalized patients with adverse/severe cases of covid
Of the hospitalized patients, 23% were in an "adverse" group, meaning they suffered the most severe illness.

"The findings are based on an analysis of the electronic health records of more than 7,500 COVID-19 patients from 14 hospitals
in the midwestern United States and 60 primary care clinics in Minnesota.

"Among these patients, all of whom were diagnosed between March 7 and Aug. 25 of last year, just over 1,000 required hospital admission and were included in the study."

"Based on the patients' symptoms, disease course and outcomes -- recovery, hospital discharge or death
-- the researchers sorted them into three phenotypes, or groups, of disease severity.
Of the hospitalized patients, 23% were in an "adverse" group, meaning they suffered the most severe illness."

"This group (adverse/severe) carried a three-fold increased risk for lung complications and seven-fold increased risk for kidney complications
compared to those with more mild disease, the data showed."

"Most of the patients in the group had chronic health conditions, including heart and kidney disease, before infection
and were more likely to be non-White and non-English speaking.
Twenty-seven percent of these(adverse/severe) patients died, according to the researchers."

61 posted on 04/04/2021 2:29:35 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: nickcarraway

I was expecting this article to be a repost from 2020.


62 posted on 04/04/2021 5:27:57 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: varyouga

In my circle.

My wife and I had it. Minor symptoms, but I have noticed that on longer hikes (3+ miles) I get winded where I didn’t before. Not sure if CV related or the fact I am getting older.

Coworker had it. Moderate to sever symptoms. He is having trouble walking more than a block. Also is obese, diabetic, and an alcoholic (recovering now!). Doc told him he has scaring on his lungs. He is unsure on how many years it took off.

Friend and wife had it. He passed out on his steps for at least an hour before found. Wife is a vet, and gave him steroids. He is ok, but has lost a lot of range on his bike (30%). Got the shot and was VERY sick and feels much worse now.

Number of others with no long term results.

Long term this will be a winnowing function like TB and other diseases.


63 posted on 04/04/2021 5:43:25 PM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: chopperk

I just checked the FDA website.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19

FDA says studies are underway but there is no scientific studies yet saying ivermectin should be used for Covid-19 and in fact taking ivermectin can be dangerous in certain circumstances.

Based on proper scientific studies, there is also no proof HCQ works and the Trump administration FDA revoked HCQ from a EUA.

Please stop providing medical advice and tell people to contact their medical practitioner for advice on treating Covid-19.


64 posted on 04/04/2021 5:43:40 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: gas_dr

Are the antibodies the same as convulsant plasma? Donated that a few times and the nurses said it is helping people


65 posted on 04/04/2021 5:45:15 PM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: redgolum

The antibodies in regeneron and bamlanivimab are directly targeted at Corona virus. Convalescent plasma is just the plasma from infected patients on the hope there is sufficient antibodies. The infusions of monoclonal antibodies insure the proper concentration of nothing except what is targeted at Corona virus. So the monoclonal are better in terms of directed therapeutic and quantity.


66 posted on 04/04/2021 5:50:03 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

Are they prepared from recovered patients or synthetically?

I seem to remember an article that bamlanivimab is no longer to be used.

Sorry. Engineer and interested in everything.


67 posted on 04/04/2021 6:07:47 PM PDT by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian)
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To: HighSierra5

Eventually we’re all gonna die.


Point?

True, but not exactly helpful to individuals or families going thru this illness - or any other for that matter.


68 posted on 04/04/2021 6:17:36 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (If I wanted to live in China, I would move there!)
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To: redgolum

bamlan is a very viable treatment option and being used. We also just got authorization to use tolicuzumab (actemra) an IL-6 inhibitor in oatients in their first 24 hours in ICU. We are gradually developing targeted treatments and learning when they are most effective. Combined with widespread vaccination we are making good headway against this thing


69 posted on 04/04/2021 6:20:43 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: redgolum

it is a monoclonal antibody


70 posted on 04/04/2021 6:22:00 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: TheWriterTX

You’re in my prayers...


71 posted on 04/04/2021 6:38:26 PM PDT by GOPJ ("Leftists want election fraud - Nick Searcy" -\ "Ignore ‘Low-IQ Race-Baiter’ AOC" - Tucker Carlson)
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To: ransomnote

“I’ve read many who complained when they were sick they were told to go home and return when they needed hospitalization”

This is my pet peeve with our medical establishment’s response.
Those people should have been assigned whatever safe treatments the doctors could imagine- no matter how far-fetched- as long as they were safe for that patient.


72 posted on 04/04/2021 6:41:01 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: GOPJ

But; what will they die of?


73 posted on 04/04/2021 6:47:33 PM PDT by 55Ford
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I wonder what percent of ‘severe’ patients were ones brought over, from Mexico.

I know El Paso, TX met/transfered many, in EP ambulances, to local hospitals.

I imagine the same thing took place in CA and AZ, as well.

Probably not NM....as their healthcare is on par/maybe a step better, than Meheeco’s. 😬


74 posted on 04/04/2021 7:24:25 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: TheWriterTX

just learned today that my 65 yro brother....in good shape, never smoked, is in the hospital with covid and pneumonia...his wife is home with covid but doing okay...


75 posted on 04/04/2021 7:26:47 PM PDT by cherry (we are the Remnant)
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To: cherry

Prayers for your brother.


76 posted on 04/04/2021 7:29:20 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: DannyTN

> You’re using the second definition, like gambling odds, 4 to 6 you have ED.

This definition is also the definition that is used in statistics, in scientific literature, etc.

> But still you can’t use that ratio the way you are using it.

Certainly you can. The factor that you multiply the odds by is called the odds ratio. It is given by p0/(1-p0)/[p1/(1-p1)], where p0 and p1 are the probabilities of some event of interest (e.g. the occurance of ED) for the two populations being compared. The odds ratio is very commonly used in research literature in the biological sciences.

> My undergraduate minor was in Math. I’ve had a lot of statistics and probability, including graduate level.

Cool! I got my undergrad degree in math, and also have graduate degrees in math and statistics. I’ve been working as a statistician/data scientist for 20+ years.


77 posted on 04/04/2021 8:28:33 PM PDT by Qilin
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There are two reasons why the CDC and WHO banned the use of available, FDA approved drugs in use for decades and proven safe, forcing doctors to send ill patients home until they needed hospitalization.

1. They needed a body count to warrant an ‘emergency’ that would be used to give experimental Covid vaccines an Emergency Use Authorization (An EUA requires emergency conditions). Had they simply treated people early, there would have been a small fraction of hospitalizations and deaths.

2. They needed to be able to falsely claim that no other treatments were available when proposing to give EUA to the experimental Covid-19 vaccines. It’s a term of the EUA criteria - there must be no other available treatments during an emergency.

Had they allowed doctors to continue the practice of writing off-label prescriptions for HCQ/Ivermectin etc., a small fraction of the hospitalizations and deaths would occur and the experimental mRNA vaccines would not be used on the public the first time because a) drugs were available and b) deaths did not constitute an emergency (far fewer of them.

There was also the bonus of locking down the economy and blaming economic losses on President Trump, and laying the groundwork for ‘passports’ that must be shown wherever you go in the US, and required/mandatory vaccines and boosters
They let people DIE to get their experimental vaccines into the ‘arms’ of the public. They are now experimenting on children young as 12 who are receiving Covid-19 vaccines even though they are robustly immune.

This is biological warfare. Biden isn’t the only one who sold out to China. China directs the toxic vaccines and plans for passports and forced immunizations, all of which are based on the Genome sequence China released to the public in the spring of 2020 (gosh, I hope China gave us an accurate genome sequence to their engineered biowarfare agent!).


78 posted on 04/04/2021 8:32:13 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Qilin

Then lets switch to a practical example.

In a universe of 100 people of men aged over 50.

If pre-covid 40% have ED, then that is 40 people.

You’re answer for post covid was 66%, which would be 66 people.

How is 66 people vs 40 people equal to 3 times the likelihood?


79 posted on 04/05/2021 1:00:28 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

To take that practical example a little further...

Let’s assume pre-covid was only 10%.
That would be 10 people in our universe of 100 people.

Post Covid at 3x the likelihood would be 3x 10% = 30%, OR 30 People.

Clearly 30 out of 100 is 3x the likelihood of 10 out of 100.

At 20% it’s 20 people vs 60.
At 30% it’s 30 people vs 90.

40% won’t work, you can’t have 3x the liklihood when you start with 40%. One of the 2 assumptions has to be wrong. Either you’re not starting with 40%, or it can’t be 3X the liklihood.


80 posted on 04/05/2021 1:30:53 AM PDT by DannyTN
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