Posted on 04/04/2021 12:12:01 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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“About 23% of people hospitalized with COVID-19 experience the most severe form of the disease and roughly one in four of them will die due to its complications, according to a study published Friday by PLOS ONE.”
25% of 23%, or 5.75% of hospitalized patients.
Now why couldn’t they have said that? Because 5.75 is smaller than either 25 or 23, and the purpose of Covid19 “reporting” is to maximize any negative.
It doesn’t make sense to multiply probabilities like this. You need to work with odds.
odds of ED post COVID = 0.4/0.6 = 2/3
3*”odds of ED post COVID” = (2/3)*3 = 2
Now convert back to probability:
probability of ED post COVID = 2/(1 + 2) = 2/3.
So that comes to about 66.6%.
And why are resources limited????
Because of the insanity of stopping everything.
No one is served by these lockdown...
Grifters gonna grift.
Kind of ironic that an organization who's motto is "all for the patient" will only give you health information if you get on their fund raising mailing list.
Before anyone has kittens, check out PLOS ONE.
Your first line says...
"odds of ED post COVID = 0.4/0.6 = 2/3"
First, I think you meant pre-covid not post.
But pre-covid odds are 40% according to the commercial.
40% does not equal 2/3.
Your calculation of 2/3 is the ratio of men over 50 with ED to the men over 50 without ED. And not a particularly useful number.
The odds of pre-covid ED is 0.4 over the entire population of 1. (.4/1)=40%.
your second line says
"3*”odds of ED post COVID” = (2/3)*3 = 2"
If you convert 2 to a probability, 2 = 200%!!!
40% * 3 =120% is lower than (2/3)*3=200%
So you've not exactly helped us here. lol
But you're right you can't do what I did.
You can't have 120% odds of getting ED.
But the problem wasn't my math, it was the assumptions.
If you assume the commercial is true, and the odds are 40% for men over age 50.
Then the 3x figure can't be for men over age 50. Because you cant exceed 100%.
The most the odds multiplier could be for men over age 50 is 2.5x.
40% * 2.5 = 100%.
But an age range isn't given for the 3x.
It could include much younger men or based entirely on much younger men.
It's more likely a seat of the pants estimate based on a small sample.
But thanks for trying at least you recognized it couldn't be right.
It was funny though. Funny but not funny.
Yes, exactly. Thanks for the reply.
You will make it. Just keep fighting.
Surprised to see the continuing push for self-medicating with ivermectin. It’s also being pushed on liberal/left websites.
Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin#Research
Here's the original thread:
A Guide to Home-Based COVID Treatment
aapsonline.org ^ | December 11, 2020 | Jane M. Orient M.D., & Elizabeth Lee Vliet, M.D.
Posted on 3/25/2021, 11:44:49 PM by ransomnote
Ivermectin and HCQ does NOT help this population. I have tried several times.
If toj have symptoms of Covid and there is the least bit of progression WITHOUT DELAY get bamlamivomab OR regeneron. Waste NO TiME hoping these other things work. They won’t. The monoclonal antibodies will save your life.
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These treatments work and many doctors and foreign countries find them highly effective, particularly if given early.
For those who are becoming ill as a results of having the vaccine per the NIH document here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/
I am suggesting people go on a prophylactic regime and they may need the treatments you specify but if they are denied or delayed in accessing them, I think the Zelenko protocol is wise until you can shake loose legimate help from the medical establishment.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3947716/posts?page=36#36
For those who don’t care to read the link, research uploaded to the NIH website October 28, 2021 concluded that vaccine trial participants and later patients who receive the ‘vaccines’ should be fully aware that getting the vaccine may result in having a more severe case of Covid-19 than if they had not been vaccinated. Here’s a quote:
“Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method, may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID-19 vaccine trials that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur, obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.”
So far, the key is early treatment, as is seen by the great freeper report I included above. Early - even if you aren’t sure where it’s going. From the moment you feel symptoms. That’s true for foreign countries reporting great success early treatment keeps people out of the hospital.
Again, if it’s vaccine-amplified Covid, more may be required.
Actually, here’s the quote I was thinking of:
“Conclusions drawn from the study and clinical implications: The specific and significant COVID-19 risk of ADE should have been and should be prominently and independently disclosed to research subjects currently in vaccine trials, as well as those being recruited for the trials and future patients after vaccine approval, in order to meet the medical ethics standard of patient comprehension for informed consent.
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Coronavirus PING!
> But pre-covid odds are 40% according to the commercial.
No, this is not the odds. The odds is a value between 0 and infinity and therefore would never be expressed as a percentage. This value (40%) is the estimated proportion of the population over 50 with ED.
If the proportion is p then the odds is p/(1-p). So the probability p is a value between 0 and 1 (or 0% and 100%), while the odds is between 0 and infinity. In the example were discussing the odds is 0.4/(1-0.4) = 0.4/0.6=2/3.
Note that multiplying the odds by a factor (often called the odds ratio) is a sensible thing to do, while multiplying a probability (or proportion) by a factor can lead to nonsense (like the 120% value you obtained.)
But even in the most robust of studies there is still a 1/3 chance of mortality if the disease gets to severe state even if given ivermectin. I have said all along ivermectin is a partial treatment.
I point to India where ivermectin is widely distributed and used. And they are off the rails swimming in Covid at this time. This clearly points to the need to see ivermectin for what it is
Instead of ivermectin if early in disease monoclonal antibodies will STOP disease progression and prevent death >99% of the time. As PDJT
You are very reasonable. I respect though disagree with your vaccine stance. But as for regeneron and bamlanivimab there is no controversy. It is superior treatment and does not invoke the well elucidated vaccine controversies that exist.
Please have a look at the relevant data and consider your position on this.
40% is the probability that a man over the age of 50 has ED, according to the commercial.
You're using the second definition, like gambling odds, 4 to 6 you have ED.
But still you can't use that ratio the way you are using it.
My undergraduate minor was in Math. I've had a lot of statistics and probability, including graduate level.
;-)
If you’re still not convinced, ask yourself this.
Is your answer of 66% post covid 3 times more likely than 40% pre covid?
Take a universe of 10 people.
work it out.
If 4 people had it pre-covid, then in what scenario do you get 3x more likely? You can’t.
Either the 40% or the 3x is wrong. because they exceed 100%.
Happy Easter. That is good news!
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