Posted on 04/01/2021 10:14:06 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Thanks for sharing that.
Further clarification for me that without Jesus we would be powder-kegs of anger.
A very interesting and poignant story. I notice you did not mention the Interstate as causing the destruction, as liberals would have it.
I remember hearing about red lining, but I was very young so the subject didn’t interest me at the time. I didn’t pay any attention to it. It wasn’t until I was older and had seen a different sort of red lining thet I understood it as it directly effected me.
During the Clinton years, commercial fishermen in the Pacific North West were being forced out of their generations and life long profession because they were the wrong race. Many were forced to sell their homes because there was no longer any work, the communities revolving round commercial fishing since the early part of the 20th century.
In stepped the realtors offering them low ball prices in the 10s of thousands of dollars, but more money than most had ever seen in one pile. So they sold out, moved to the city, or entered the Clinton retraining programs which, when they were finished, discovered they had been trained for jobs that did not exist or had been phased out.
The realtors? Since the homes of many commercial fishermen were built on the coast or on the Columbia River near the ocean or other locations with views of the ocean and mountains, they resold the homes to uber-rich Californians and Texans for hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash (big money for a home then), realtors laughing all the way to the bank.
The fishermen? Homeless, penniless, unskilled and jobless, wife divorced. Having to remake themselves and their lives from scratch at all ages.
I thought of going back to the beautiful town overlooking a large bay with a view of the Cascades and Olympic mountains I once called home for 30 years, but was forced to leave, too many memories would come flooding back, I’d get sick to my stomach. I can never go home again.
But according to the article, we all should really blame the interstate system for enabling literal hoards of wealthy people to come into our area, our homes, our lives and push us out so they can enjoy the views while playing on pretend country farms overlooking the Pacific Ocean with views of the green and snow capped mountains in the distance. We get to enjoy the view of our neighbors yard ...
A moving story.
I think of some things in my family’s past - particularly a small midwestern town six of us siblings spent the WWII years mostly with our mom while our dad was assigned and reassigned hither and yon by the Air Force. We have so many fond memories from there and have often wondered if only our family could have remained there, instead of all of us moving four more times before finally settling in California, but with only 2 years before my oldest brother graduated high school, which would be followed every one or two years, for 14 years, as all eight of my parents children would “grow up” and leave home, with many of us off to different parts of the country.
Then I am reminded of the story of Lot, and particularly Lot’s wife. Her story is more than what it seems directly - the decadence of Sodom. Her story is her refusal to accept a change that just had to be(she could not help “looking back”, even knowing G-d commanded her not to). That is the meaning of her being turned into a pillar of salt - salt does not change, it is always salt.
I have a sister who when growing up I imagined was the least one of us that would accept being uprooted and moved around as an adult. Ha. She moved away shortly after she married, and her husband would move his family four more times before their kids were grown, and moved my sister and him again after he retired. That last move was the hardest on my sister, as that was moving from where they had spent the most time, their kids finished school & married local guys, and they had lots of church, family and friend connections. But they moved anyway, and she has made new friends and become part of new (to her) congregation and now feels very much at home where she is.
Change is hard, sometimes very hard, very hard to accept - no matter the cause or reason, right or wrong.
But life is about moving forward more than looking back.
You are of course right, and my life has not been a misery ever since. But I did want to bring out that racial segregation/integration has hurt whites as well as blacks, and usually the ones less able to afford to make things all better for a long time after they are forced to move by racial unrest, relocation or animus. The elites plan these great schemes; the lower and middle classes pay the price.
” But I did want to bring out that racial segregation/integration has hurt whites as well as blacks, and usually the ones less able to afford to make things all better for a long time after they are forced to move by racial unrest, relocation or animus. The elites plan these great schemes; the lower and middle classes pay the price.”
I totally agree, and did not mean to minimize your concerns.
The elites do act in ways that often seem callous, and I can say we are never sure if consequences of their actions were (a) understood and ignored (callousness) or (b) never thought of or considered (ignorant dumb asses with more authority than they should have). I imagine all their errors have been some of each. The bigger problem is that sometimes, no matter the cause, no matter the motive, recovery is hard or never realized for generations.
Yep, they want to make your you wait at stoplights in the ghetto.
I believe CNN’s towering oppressive headquarters in Atlanta is racist!
BINGO! You've found a US universal truth... and the reason we hate AOC, John Kerry, and CommieLa...
Agree, blacks had always lived scattered all around DC and many had jobs with the railroads, trucking, grocery or merchandise distribution, gardening, portering, doormen, domestics, cooks, waiters, drivers, cabbies—lots of kinds of service work, including segregated jobs for the black community like barbering, corner stores, all types of public accommodations. Philadelphia was the same, with "alley streets" in many neighborhoods. There were also black upper class people in DC after the Civil War, particularly educators and lawyers, and several U.S. Representatives.
The postwar "central planning" bug out of FDR's wake started becoming very aggressive after the U.S. government announced at the start of the 50s that blacks could apply for civil service jobs. Hence, block-busting and "white flight" in response to a rapid, large influx of rural, less-educated people into our working-class, yet comparatively urbane environment. Even the middle- and lower middle-class whites, having lived in DC for generations (it's almost unheard of now) had been educated in history and current events, including international events, by the daily DC newspapers and the many free museums and monuments. There was even a Republican newspaper until 1981, The Washington Star. During the same postwar era, the CPUSA and the ACLU (both founded along with the Soviet Revolution in the 20s) gained ascendancy, relishing their chance to organize animosity and resentment. They love a good class war.
I pity the border towns and destination cities of the latest influx thanks to Bide-a-wee.
I’ve always wondered especially about the “Gold Coast” on upper 16th street. In my time, that has always been held up as the iconic early 20th century neighborhood for the black upper class, the professional and business elites. Those folks certainly were very prominent in the history of the area, but I wonder what the dynamics were when those homes were built. The area has always been very nice.
Back in the 50s, white doctors and lawyers used some of those houses for their practices, and I imagine the embassies drew a lot of international relations wonks of the day to live there. That's about all I know of it.
Wow, what a story of inflation and implosion. What area of the country was this church in?
There’s a lot of truth in what you say, that the interstate system has massively destabilized our traditional society, religion, marriage, extended family, small town living, relations between generations, all of it. As well, the population of the U.S. has more than deoubled in my lifetime, so of course all the prime locations on the waterways and oceans or with mountain vistas, etc. have been overloaded with whomever can pay top dollar. It’s worldwide, because the rise of antibiotics has come along also, meaning none of the regular die-offs that used to come like clockwork. We haven’t let covid do its thing, either.
What did you mean about the commercial fishermen not being the right color — was the Clinton admin trying to say that black or brown folks were being denied the ability to gain licenses?
You didn't at all. Life is tough. Sometimes you're in a truly wonderful place and "you don't know what you've got til it's gone--they paved paradise; put up a parking lot."
What did you mean about the commercial fishermen not being the right color - was the Clinton admin trying to say that black or brown folks were being denied the ability to gain licenses?
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I said “wrong race”, not “wrong color”. There was this Black guy I remember, who thought the same that it was color which was the problem.
He went out and bought a nice new bowpicker for maybe 20K nets for 10K and a permit for 20K; he figured he’s make it back in a year.
So when an area near Seattle was open for people of the “right race”, he sallied forth and was merrily drifting and dreaming when the fish cops boarded and ticketed him for illegal fishing, and took the fish he had onboard.
(They were sold to a buyer, and as was the “custom”, only a few fish were recorded on the fish ticket and reflected on the resulting check made out to the state - the rest of the money from the sale was in cash pocketed by the fish cop. Fish cops in those days were buying all manner of new homes and fancy cars and trucks).
The Black guy arranged a meeting with the Director of Fisheries to clear the problem up, since he was a person of color and so entitled under the law (he thought) to fish at times and places when the people of the “right race” were fishing.
The Director set him straight saying, “Yes you are a minority, but SCOTUS (Washington v. Fishing Vessel Assn July 1979) and the Boldt Decision (USA v State of Washington No. 9535202 Oct 1996) clearly spell out that the Right Race pertains to Treaty Tribes, a member of which you are not.”
The Black guy put his boat, gear, and permit up for sale shortly after ...
Moral: never confuse race with color.
As for Clinton, like every thing else he did in office, his programs of aid were for show only. There was never any actual intent to help the devastated commercial fishing community. There was even 10 million set aside for loans with another 10 if needed. However, the loans were predicated on documented loss (how do you document a loss from a fishing opening that never happened?) and that needed to be reflected in income tax records for the proceeding 5 years.
Unless a guy had a second job like bus driver or teacher, there was little or no money - out of $70K of my loss they were willing to loan for 4 years $2.5K at 10%, with payments of $250 a month or so. I could do better at a bank. After a while, the only real loans went to school teachers who moonlighted as fishermen for $10-20K, and the really big loans went to the gear houses by the millions; of the $10 million only $3 or $4 million were actually loaned out, the rest was turned back, since full time commercial fishermen did not qualify.
And so others signed up for the retraining programs, but by that time many of us saw through these fake offers and found more work in Alaska fisheries to make ends meet.
What a tale of waste and anti-American hatred by Clintoon. UK’s generations-deep fishing families have had the same troubles since the EU took over, and the abuse of its fisheries for politically correct reasons was a big incentive for Brexit. Fishers were having to yield the majority of their catch to the EU for redistribution elsewhere but their own country. I had no idea fishing had been politicized here, too. My sympathies, FRiend.
My sympathies, FRiend
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Thanks! Much appreciated.
BTW: I don’t know if you know this, but a fisher is a small, carnivorous mammal native to North America. People who fish for a living are always fishermen. Fisher is the insulting PC term for fisherman.
Thanks for the clarification. My background in the word is from the Bible: “be fishers of men.”
My background in the word is from the Bible: “be fishers of men.”
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bad translation, should be: be fishermen
These are the top Bible versions in English worldwide, including ancient and modern translations used by Catholics, Protestants, Evangelicals, and Messianic Jews:
Matthew 4:19
Mounce Reverse Interlinear New Testament: "Come, follow me, and I will make you fishers of men."
"Deute opisō egō, ka poieō hymeis halieus anthrōpos."
Authorized King James Version: Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.
New King James Version: “Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men.”
American Standard version: Come ye after me, and I will make you fishers of men.
Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition: Come ye after me, and I will make you to be fishers of men.
Evangelical Heritage version: “Come, follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.”
English Standard version: “Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.”
1599 Geneva Bible: Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.
International Standard Version: “Follow me, ...and I will make you fishers of people!”
Jubilee Bible 2000: Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.
Lexham English Bible: “Follow me and I will make you fishers of people.”
Modern English Version: “Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men.”
New American Bible (Revised): “Come after me, and I will make you fishers of men.”
New American Standard Bible: “Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of people.”
New American Standard Bible 1995: “Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men.”
New English Translation: “Follow me, and I will turn you into fishers of people!”
Orthodox Jewish Bible: Come, follow me, and I will make you daiyagei adam (fishers of men).
Revised Geneva Translation: “Follow Me. And I will make you fishers of men.”
Revised Standard Version: “Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.”
Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition: “Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.”
World English Bible: “Come after me, and I will make you fishers for men.”
Wycliffe Bible: Come ye after me, and I shall make you to be made fishers of men.
Young's Literal Translation: `Come ye after me, and I will make you fishers of men,'
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