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Pete Buttigieg Touts Plan to Tax Americans for Every Mile They Drive
NN ^ | 03-27-21 | Jay Greenberg

Posted on 03/27/2021 9:25:02 AM PDT by McQ444

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To: McQ444

The real problem with this is that it would give the government the means to track your movements.


81 posted on 03/27/2021 11:15:14 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
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To: Texas Eagle

Pete is already full of gas!


82 posted on 03/27/2021 11:21:27 AM PDT by T Baden (Tenth Amendment Texan)
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To: Reno89519

That is besides the point. You thought a broken odometer would prevent you from getting mileage tax.

State Farm sent me these very small electronic devices, which is used to record mileage on my cars and how good or bad are my driving habits. It rates me on turns, braking, acceleration, exceeding speed limits, etc. That data is used to determine how much discount I will get on my next car insurance bill. I am getting $40 discounts on my bills since I am generally a safe driver.

That device knows which parking lot I visited but has no way to know which store I shopped at or which restaurant I ate in, or which other business I visited.

The fact is we are using more and more of electrical vehicles. And all of them are exempt from the gasoline tax since they don’t use any gas. That is unfair to us gas based car drivers. So I go along with the mileage device DOT will install in my car.

Of course you can cheat by removing the device from your car on longer drives, so long as a cop does not flag you down and ask why that device is missing in your car.


83 posted on 03/27/2021 11:31:27 AM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump deserves 5 Nobel Peace prizes for pushing warp speed creation of covid-vaccines. )
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To: escapefromboston

We are going to end up with both a gas tax and a mileage tax.

Some have said that the mileage tax could replace the gas tax. But I doubt it. Instead, we will end up with both.

We will have both anyway, because this talk is of a federal gas tax. I’m sure every state also has their own state gas tax, which would presumeably still be in place even if the federal government dropped their gas tax.


84 posted on 03/27/2021 11:35:27 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: usconservative; ZOOKER

Very good points

But I don’t think that the Feds can force the states to collect this tax for them.

But, as usual the Feds will compel the states to collect this tax under threat of withholding highway funds.

In this case I think the states would be better off just keeping the money for themselves.

But most state politicians would rather collect the taxes for the Feds and then get a reduced and restricted return from the Feds than take the heat themselves for the tax.


85 posted on 03/27/2021 11:36:02 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: McQ444

I think we should tax all rump rangers for all the AIDS they have spread.


86 posted on 03/27/2021 11:39:11 AM PDT by NWFree (Socialism is legalized plunder)
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To: McQ444

just one more reason to be disgusted by f-ing liberals.


87 posted on 03/27/2021 11:39:22 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Molon Labe')
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To: cranked

Truck drivers should launch a nation-wide strike.....refuse to transport ANYTHING into the major cities if this “plan” goes through.

Let the liberals starve.


88 posted on 03/27/2021 11:42:17 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Bite Me.....The Commander-in-Thief, Commander-in-Cheat, Illegitimate president!)
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To: McQ444

Union. VS. Union(s)

Watch out for EXEMPTIONS

UNION and other EXEMPTIONS.

THE EXEMPT ONES ALERT.


89 posted on 03/27/2021 11:53:27 AM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: McQ444

Well that’s one more way to piss off truckers and every other industry that relies on driving for their livelihood.

But will we ever stand up and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

I am beginning to wonder.


90 posted on 03/27/2021 11:54:26 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: McQ444

Pete Buttigieg Touts Plan to Tax Americans for Every Mile They Drive

How is Pete going to know how many miles I drive?
How often is he going to collect?


91 posted on 03/27/2021 12:04:48 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: McQ444

Forcing people back into the cities.


92 posted on 03/27/2021 12:34:34 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: McQ444

That’ll be popular. Total vote bait. It would be hard to imagine a more regressive tax.


93 posted on 03/27/2021 12:42:45 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ever notice no "champion of the working man" ever died of overwork?)
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To: McQ444

” NEW, per spokesman for
@SecretaryPete
on VMT: “The Secretary was having a broad conversation about a variety of ways to fund transportation. To be clear, he never said that VMT was under consideration by the White House as part of this infrastructure plan—
and it is not.” “

Upset the leaching Big Donor EV manufacturers AND the leaching buyers LOL!


94 posted on 03/27/2021 12:57:06 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: ScubaDiver

We can only hope it dies in an avalanche of lawsuits.


95 posted on 03/27/2021 1:03:40 PM PDT by MachIV
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To: McQ444; All
”The Biden administration [??? emphasis added] is considering taxing motorists by the mile to fund their $3 trillion climate-friendly "green" infrastructure plans."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

There are several major constitutional problems with this unsurprisingly misguided Democratic tax plan.

First, where is Nancy Pelosi? Pelosi should at least be arguing that non-elected federal bureaucrats in executive branch should not be dictating federal tax policy.

More specifically, the delegates to the Constitutional Convention gave “the power of the purse" uniquely to the House of Representatives.

"Article I, Section 7, Clause 1: All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills."

But the problem remains that even if Pelosi argued that Buttigieg’s road tax sounds like a good idea, she’d be wrongly ignoring that the states have never expressly constitutionally given the feds the specific power to establish such a tax.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

Patriots, we need to primary Congress in 2022 midterm elections since they ignored state violations of 12th Amendment (12A) in order to help desperate Democrats pirate election from red tsunami of Trump supporters in 2020.

For example, the states surrendered their power to make so-called “winner take all” laws for a state’s electoral votes when they ratified 12A imo.

Excerpted from the 12th Amendment: "The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice- President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate [emphasis added];--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted; […]"

Also…


96 posted on 03/27/2021 1:14:48 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: McQ444

A homosexual democrat has as his first act since his appointment to create a new tax to affect every American. There are older Americans with an old car and on limited budget such as Social Security that will be greatly affected by this tax. Those working steady jobs will not feel it as much if he is successful, but there are poorer Americans who will be affected much, perhaps enough to keep them from driving. But Buttigieg is a democrat and that does not matter to him.


97 posted on 03/27/2021 1:19:03 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: McQ444

So what this article is saying is that Buttigieg wants us all to take it up the shorts like he does? I’d say that’s pushing the gay lifestyle on us.


98 posted on 03/27/2021 1:23:18 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: McQ444

We pay for those good for nothin’ grifters in DC to drive around. I so despise them.


99 posted on 03/27/2021 1:25:10 PM PDT by dforest (RATS are criminals and frauds. Hide anything that belongs to you. They will steal it.)
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To: escapefromboston

My first thought as well.


100 posted on 03/27/2021 1:29:43 PM PDT by jurroppi1 (The Left doesn't have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
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