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COVID and the Semmelweis Reflex
American Thinker ^ | 26 Mar, 2021 | Robert Jones

Posted on 03/26/2021 3:21:01 AM PDT by MtnClimber

The majority of physicians have failed because they have not put into practice the safe and effective treatments that now exist for COVID.

As recent as the mid-1800s, five women in 1,000 died in deliveries performed by midwives. On the other hand, when physicians performed deliveries, the death rate was often 10 to 20 times greater. This was because physicians often began their day performing autopsies with bare hands and then, without washing their hands, examined pregnant women and delivered babies. Midwives, on the other hand, did not perform autopsies. These physician-caused deaths were due to puerperal fever, a horrendous way to die characterized by high fevers, painful abscesses, and a tortured decline into a nightmare of irreversible sepsis.

Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis was the Hungarian physician who spent his life as a voice crying in the wilderness trying to reduce the death rate of pregnant women. He had discovered that if physicians simply washed with a chlorinated lime solution before examining pregnant women or delivering babies that the death rate dropped to less than 1%. Because his view countered prevailing medical opinion, he was shunned by the medical profession and died an ignominious death at the age of 47.

The “Semmelweis Reflex” is a metaphor for our reflex-like tendency to reject new knowledge because it contradicts with an established belief or norm. That is exactly what is happening today with COVID.

Around the world, a small number of esteemed physicians have found combinations of drugs that can produce a near complete cure for COVID, as long as patients are treated when the viral load is low.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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To: DugwayDuke

Provide us examples of the medical community successfully treating COVID with something besides a so-called vaccine.


21 posted on 03/26/2021 3:54:01 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom
Provide us examples of the medical community successfully treating COVID with something besides a so-called vaccine.

Trump got Remdesivir, dexamethasone and Regeneron's REGN-COV2. Would you call his treatment a success?

22 posted on 03/26/2021 4:11:14 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Yes.

OK, what about the rest of us?

Can you go to the doctor and be diagnosed with COVID and get that protocol?


23 posted on 03/26/2021 4:40:35 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: semimojo

Actually, maybe.

He may have been just fine without it anyways.

But he could not take the chance.

So maybe it worked.


24 posted on 03/26/2021 4:41:41 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: DugwayDuke

“You’re playing word games. Members of the healthcare community have spent years in training to fight diseases caused by virus. CV is a disease caused by a virus.”

And yet you all were pretty much AWOL for a whole year.

Third World countries are offering home kits with Ivermectin, and the hospitalizations are plummeting last I checked. The MD response here is deny, minimize, ignore.

Dr David Brownstein MD offered a natural protocol last year, one that he says he has used in viral treatment for 30 yrs, and one that he reported having over a 99% success rate in early home treatment. His reward was to have the FTC tell him to stop talking about it. When I mentioned that his prepared nebulizer solution appeared to be offered *at cost* to people who needed it, a few MDs here posted that it was not worth much, if it was so inexpensive!

Even now a major hospital chain in my area offers almost nothing in the way of therapeutics. We are about 1 year in and it is medical Stone Ages. The only possible conclusions are that the conv med establishment is stupid, arrogant, or they actually want the body count to increase. There are NO legitimate excuses.

And the video with Dr McCullough says as much, that the medical profession went AWOL. Have you watched it?

My grandfather was a ENT specialist and made house calls. He died a modest middle class man driving a 10 yr old Buick. How times have changed.


25 posted on 03/26/2021 4:57:49 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: metmom

My Mom is on almost 40 yrs since her original DX. She located the cancer herself early on, but the family MD told her not to worry about it. That happened at least once more afterwards as well. The hospital where she had her second surgery was carpeted and notorious for hospital infections. My son’s pediatric MD office here was the same up until a few years ago: carpeting in the waiting area where sick children are sneezing, coughing and puking. The same people telling us to mask up, distance and stay home have (or had) a super-spreader environment in their offices.


26 posted on 03/26/2021 5:18:26 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: metmom
Can you go to the doctor and be diagnosed with COVID and get that protocol?

You are right. You can't get that treatment, not "FDA approved". The media won't report on effective treatments either. That would take the ".fear" out of the ".crisis" and the ".gov" needs the fear to control society. The FDA has become a political organization that seems to be making decisions to enable more government control just like the IRS became a political organization to punish enemies of the left. Remember when the IRS weaponized "political audits" under the Clintons. The HCQ clinical trials here seem to have been designed to fail. I remember the VA trial where the COVID infected group that received HCQ were already on ventilators.

27 posted on 03/27/2021 3:09:42 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber
I remember the VA trial where the COVID infected group that received HCQ were already on ventilators.

Which was ridiculous.

You don't wait until someone is on death's door and then try to give them a prophylatic to prevent the illness then claim it doesn't work.

HCQ, given early in combination with other drugs, does what it's supposed to but NOBODY claimed it reversed organ damage.

28 posted on 03/27/2021 6:04:38 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: SecAmndmt

SecAmndmt wrote: “Even now a major hospital chain in my area offers almost nothing in the way of therapeutics. We are about 1 year in and it is medical Stone Ages. The only possible conclusions are that the conv med establishment is stupid, arrogant, or they actually want the body count to increase. There are NO legitimate excuses.”

“And the video with Dr McCullough says as much, that the medical profession went AWOL. Have you watched it?”

Typical conspiracy theory response. You have just accused the vast majority of healthcare professionals of professional misconduct with no credible proof. Why would hundreds of thousands of doctors choose to let their patients die? Perhaps they’ve watched the video and found it to be less than credible.


29 posted on 03/27/2021 7:24:52 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: metmom

metmom wrote: “Provide us examples of the medical community successfully treating COVID with something besides a so-called vaccine.”

The pfizer vaccine has demonstrated effectiveness against symptomatic illness was 57% after the first dose and 94% after the second, while it was 74% and 87% effective, respectively, at preventing hospitalization. Efficacy was 62% and 92%, respectively, at preventing severe illness and 72% at preventing death 14 to 20 days after the first dose.

Provide us with examples of similar effectiveness of the ‘so called’ treatments of the covid anti-vaxxer cult recommended therapies.


30 posted on 03/27/2021 7:30:56 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: metmom

DugwayDuke wrote: “A belief in one’s superior knowledge is a major indicator of a belief in conspiracy theories and cult membership.”

metmom wrote: “Then you really should stop it, because that’s what you’ve been doing in every response of yours to anyone who questions the government/medical establishment narrative.”

I question whether the members of the anti-vaxxer conspiracy cult know so much better how to deal with this pandemic than those who spent years in medical school learning how to prevent/treat viruses. I also question the accusations that the vast majority of healthcare professionals of professional misconduct based upon some youtube videos.


31 posted on 03/27/2021 7:37:43 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: MtnClimber

MtnClimber wrote: “The outcome was a statistically significant (p=.025) 24% reduced risk of COVID-19 infection, hospitalization, and death.”

Nice but the vaccines have proven to be much more effective: The pfizer vaccine has demonstrated effectiveness against symptomatic illness was 57% after the first dose and 94% after the second, while it was 74% and 87% effective, respectively, at preventing hospitalization. Efficacy was 62% and 92%, respectively, at preventing severe illness and 72% at preventing death 14 to 20 days after the first dose.

Would you prefer 25% chance of an infection or a a 5% risk of an infection?


32 posted on 03/27/2021 7:41:17 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

“Typical conspiracy theory response. You have just accused the vast majority of healthcare professionals of professional misconduct with no credible proof. Why would hundreds of thousands of doctors choose to let their patients die? Perhaps they’ve watched the video and found it to be less than credible.”

Ridicule, deny, minimize, obfuscate, ignore...as expected.

McCullough’s testimony is consistent with what is happening all around us


33 posted on 03/27/2021 11:46:05 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: DugwayDuke

FLCCC’s protocols are more effective, and they don’t kill or maim anyone. We know that there won’t be cancer or other serious side effects 10 years from now.

The patients who would otherwise die under your care, thrive under FLCCC care.


34 posted on 03/27/2021 11:49:52 AM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: SecAmndmt

SecAmndmt wrote: “FLCCC’s protocols are more effective, and they don’t kill or maim anyone. We know that there won’t be cancer or other serious side effects 10 years from now.”

No one has been killed or maimed by the vaccines. Nor has there been any serious/credible evidence that these vaccines will cause cancer, etc. Just more typical anti-vaxxer fear mongering.

SecAmndmt wrote: “Ridicule, deny, minimize, obfuscate, ignore...as expected.”

That is exactly the response expected from the anti-vaxxers, nothing substantial, just more ridiculing of the vaccine, denying it’s effectiveness, etc., etc.


35 posted on 03/27/2021 12:09:26 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

IOW, the shots are NOT a vaccine after all.


36 posted on 03/27/2021 12:57:09 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: DugwayDuke; SecAmndmt
No one has been killed or maimed by the vaccines. Nor has there been any serious/credible evidence that these vaccines will cause cancer, etc.

It hasn’t been around long enough to guarantee us that.

There is no long term data available on these vaccines as they have not been out long enough.

The most any intellectually honest scientist could say is “As of yet........”

Any statements of fact beyond that are pure, baseless speculation and unworthy of someone who calls themselves a scientist.

37 posted on 03/27/2021 1:01:25 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

metmom wrote: “IOW, the shots are NOT a vaccine after all.

CDC wrote: “Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease.”

So, yes, these are vaccines.


38 posted on 03/27/2021 1:35:16 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: metmom

metmom wrote: “There is no long term data available on these vaccines as they have not been out long enough.”

How long should we wait for this “long term data”?
How many deaths should we accumulate to satisfy your “long term data”?


39 posted on 03/27/2021 1:37:16 PM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: SecAmndmt
Just a friendly FYI

One-Third of Deaths Reported to CDC After COVID Vaccines Occurred Within 48 Hours of Vaccination
childrenshealthdefense.org ^ | 02/19/21 | Children's Health Defense Team

Posted on 3/27/2021, 3:43:32 PM by ransomnote

Updated VAERS records For Covid Vaccinations as of 3/26/2021


40 posted on 03/27/2021 3:50:37 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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